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1256345 2012-01-28 07:57:00 If you are still in Dunedin mchaggis o see the guys at Cello Technology (formerlt PB Technologies) on Andersons Bay Road. They are a pretty good bunch of guys and would be able to help you sort something to fit your budget I'm sure. southern_jas (4017)
1256346 2012-01-28 08:04:00 I'm in Invercargill. Yes an i7 is overkill but my theroy is to get as grunty a PC as possible today so in 3 - 5 years it's still capable.
I'm aware that the CPU and MB must have the same socket, LOL, but what's better? 1155, 1156 or ???
I guess it comes down to the MB, so that's the question. What MB? Let's start there. Then CPU (i7 3.4GHz?), Mem, HD's, Graphics, etc, etc.....
mchaggis (16202)
1256347 2012-01-28 08:53:00 +1 for Computerlounge, never used Ascent, also really like Paradigm (pp.co.nz).

You don't say what you'll use it for mainly? assuming it's games and general computer stuff I'd suggest something like

Asus Z68 based MB
i5 2500K or i7 2600K (really bugger all difference in 99% of uses)
8GB DDR3 dual channel RAM, 16GB if you wanna really future proof but not needed currently
Asus GTX 560Ti (Yeah I like them, or go gigabyte apparently lower failure rate)
Antec or Corsair 650 ~ 750W PSU
Whatever case you like, front USB 3.0 is worth considering
Vertex Agility 3 120GB SSD for OS (or other sandforce based SSD like Crucial M4 which has a higher reliabilty rep)
whatever HDD you like for data / programs
Windows 7 64 bit

I didn't price this stuff but it shoulld be around your budget I think and a very capable machine, if you want to spend more you could consider a GTX570 or even a 580, if it's a bit over budget ditch the SSd and/or drop down to the i5 and it will still be awesome.
dugimodo (138)
1256348 2012-01-28 09:21:00 Asus GTX 560Ti (Yeah I like them, or go gigabyte apparently lower failure rate)
No, no and NO!
Gigabyte has sooo many issues! I will never buy from them again, EVER!
Google "Gigabyte 560Ti Black Screen Crash".

forums.whirlpool.net.au

I have had problems with the OC. SOC also has issues.
BIOS update didn't help me either.

The response I got from CL was "Just because people on the Internet report the same issues it doesn't mean that it exists - we have sold a lot of them and you are the only one who has brought a card back" - which didn't make me too happy. They have it for "testing" now, we shall see how and if this is resolved.


Edit: Whatever you do end up getting - burn it in as soon as you get it.
Cato (6936)
1256349 2012-01-28 09:38:00 I got ComputerLounge to build my computer. Good service.

I have also bought parts from Ascent.
Bobh (5192)
1256350 2012-01-28 19:27:00 Well I prefer asus anyway but online review sites seem to rate gigabyte as having a lower failure rate, particularly with motherboards, which is why I mentioned it.
My motherboard is gigabyte, my graphics card is asus, both are awesome.
dugimodo (138)
1256351 2012-01-28 21:42:00 Guys. You're loosing me here. LOL I'm not up with all the latest bits so go easy on me.
Z68 MB....? there are several of them with a large price range. Keeping in mind I don't want to blow the budget a $600 MB isn't going to fit my plans.

So. What brand of MB? I'm currently using a Gibabyte but have had good luck with Asus MB's in the past. Am I better to drop to an i5 and spend the $ elsewhere?
mchaggis (16202)
1256352 2012-01-28 22:10:00 here is a table of the different chip sets and what they do/don't do.
motherboardnews.com
Slankydudl (16687)
1256353 2012-01-28 22:11:00 Z68 is the chipset, any asus board using it would be fine, what features you want is really up to you.

As a reference
H67, H61 - desktop chipset with integrated graphics access and no overclocking or SLI/ Xfire as a rule
P67 - Aimed at gamers etc, has no integrated graphics but allows for overclocking and SLI / Xfire
Z68 - combines all the features of both and allows use of quicksync and dedicated graphics at the same time, honestly not a big deal for most ppl.

For games any P67 or Z68 based board will do the Job and if you are on a tight budget and don't care about SLI/ Xfire the cheaper H67 boards will do the Job very well also.

If you aren't into the Idea of Overclocking and don't need SLI / X fire then get a nice H67 board and an i5 2500 or i7 2600 - non K versions are cheaper but can't be overclocked.
And you will still have an awesome machine for quite a bit less. It's a personal choice and hard to advise on, I overclock but it truly isn't needed.

some suggestions to look at;
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz

Adds up to a pretty cost effective PC with very nice performance and the stability of stock speeds all round :)

To speed things up a bit consider;
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz

But basically you can spend as much as you want, depending on what features you require.
dugimodo (138)
1256354 2012-01-28 22:52:00 Z68 is the chipset, any asus board using it would be fine, what features you want is really up to you.

As a reference
H67, H61 - desktop chipset with integrated graphics access and no overclocking or SLI/ Xfire as a rule
P67 - Aimed at gamers etc, has no integrated graphics but allows for overclocking and SLI / Xfire
Z68 - combines all the features of both and allows use of quicksync and dedicated graphics at the same time, honestly not a big deal for most ppl.

For games any P67 or Z68 based board will do the Job and if you are on a tight budget and don't care about SLI/ Xfire the cheaper H67 boards will do the Job very well also.

If you aren't into the Idea of Overclocking and don't need SLI / X fire then get a nice H67 board and an i5 2500 or i7 2600 - non K versions are cheaper but can't be overclocked.
And you will still have an awesome machine for quite a bit less. It's a personal choice and hard to advise on, I overclock but it truly isn't needed.

some suggestions to look at;
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz

Adds up to a pretty cost effective PC with very nice performance and the stability of stock speeds all round :)

To speed things up a bit consider;
www.pp.co.nz
www.pp.co.nz

But basically you can spend as much as you want, depending on what features you require.


NOW ya talking! This is the kind of info I'm after.
Yes I know I can spend many $ but I'm trying to get a great system for around 2k but would go a bit higher to future proof it a bit.
Other items I need help with are:

Hard Drives x 2 (I perfer Western Digital Black but am open to suggestions)
Screen 24" Samsung?
Case with PS
OS (Home or Pro) Its a home based PC but will be used by a small business (home based) as well.

I can claim the GST back so the 2K is GST exclusive. hehehe

What you've suggested looks to be great value for the performance so I'm probably likely to go with the Z68 and i7.

Thanks for all the help so far.
mchaggis (16202)
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