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Thread ID: 120715 2011-09-22 06:34:00 Pendulums swing like pendulums do! tuiruru (12277) PC World Chat
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1232962 2011-09-22 06:34:00 For well over 20 years, the NZ education has slavishly followed the UK education system, even when there's been enough of a time gap to see that the UK got it wrong. About the only exception to this is the debacle known as the New Zealand Qualification System, touted as world recognised but not.

It's going to be interesting, then, to see what they do with this particular speed wobble (www.telegraph.co.uk)!!
tuiruru (12277)
1232963 2011-09-22 09:05:00 To be honest i'd agree. Cane is useful, means the little twats (me included at times :p) would get on with work. The Error Guy (14052)
1232964 2011-09-22 09:15:00 Well, a cane or a strap do very little in terms of physical harm, but can leave a sting for long enough to make a lot of people re-think their behavior.

If it's good enough to use them on school kids, then it ought to be appropriate to use them (with measure) on prisoners as well.

It's hard to imagine the PC brigade ever giving this enough rope.
Paul.Cov (425)
1232965 2011-09-22 09:49:00 Back in about 1910 these twelve year olds were given an algebra test and about seventy years later these teacher trainees were given the same questions.
Guess which group did the best.
mikebartnz (21)
1232966 2011-09-22 09:56:00 On prisoners! Recividists.... Cane, 1st time. Rattan Cane , 2nd. Birch, 3rd. Cat-O-Nine Tails, 4th. Sex offenders, Red Hot Poker. Maybe that last one would not be allowed now there is no smoking in prison!!! PJ Poppa John (284)
1232967 2011-09-22 10:02:00 Back in about 1910 these twelve year olds were given an algebra test and about seventy years later these teacher trainees were given the same questions.
Guess which group did the best.

I loved Algebra, my favourite maths lesson. I had the ablity to look at the formula & change it instantly. Lost marks tho for not showing the 'working out'!!!

Had the heavy walking stick cane many times at school & Barnardos. didn't do me any lasting harm other than blood & bruises. look at me now, just Wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PJ:2cents:
Poppa John (284)
1232968 2011-09-22 10:31:00 I remember getting the strap at primary school and later the cane at secondary school. I probably deserved it and it did me no harm. It stung for a few seconds then it was over. The kids of today would be too soft to take this sort of punishment.

The kids of today know no boundaries and possibly have no respect for teachers or adults. We always called a teacher Sir, Mr, Miss or Mrs as appropriate. We never called an adult by their first name.
Bobh (5192)
1232969 2011-09-22 11:40:00 Physical punishment never hurt anyone so long as it didn't degenerate into brutality, and it did reinforce the natural order in schools and help maintain discipline, something that is almost entirely absent in today's schools.
I had the good fortune to attend a Church of Scotland boys school, Public School in British parlance or private school in Kiwi terminology.
Our Headmaster was a Scotland International Rugby player, he rose to the rank of Lt Col during the war, winning the DSO and the MC, he was an excellent scholar and a Church of Scotland Minister. His attitude to work was simple, as he related to boys, you are here to work, the fees you parents are paying is on the expectation that you will be made to work and will do well in later life, not working was not an available option, one could work with good grace or ill grace(with all the pain that could involve), but one worked. Sport was compulsory no exceptions and most of the boys who went through that college in my generation did well in life.

I am sure that this attitude what is missing in today's enlightened education system, and look at what it is producing.
KenESmith (6287)
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