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Thread ID: 120697	2011-09-21 07:58:00	Obese people on TV	mzee (3324)	PC World Chat

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1232821	2011-09-22 04:22:00	What they need to do is get off the damn couch and go walk up a hill. ...to the local fish and chip shop....???	johcar (6283)
1232822	2011-09-22 04:47:00	Im gonna go shoot my local dairy owner. He keeps selling me smokes.	hueybot3000 (3646)
1232823	2011-09-22 06:59:00	So starving people who cant fend for themselves for what ever reason is OK ? The programs you mention - personally so far I have never seen excessive amounts of food given, only normal or slightly below normal portions the average person may eat . Bollocks, that is only what they let you see . Nobody can get fat (or stay fat) eating a normal person's food intake or smaller portions . The two key factors are food intake and EXERCISE . I watched that "Britain's fattest Woman" program a week or so back and she was a living, breathing, and troughing train wreck . She was so grossly obese she was confined to bed and on oxygen because the weight of her upper body inhibited her breathing, (the weight of her lower body inhibited everything else) . She wept and bleated that she just couldn't lose weight, then finally we saw how she obtained her food . SHE ordered it on line and it was deliverd to her door . Her family dutifully lugged the bags upstairs (enough food to feed my family of four adults for two weeks) and put it on her bed . She then went through it and pulled out all the sweets, chocolate and other seriously unnecessary but fattening junk and hid it under her bedspread (size of a tent so ideal for hiding a multitude of sins) and looked innocently at the camera and said "they are my treats" . Finally she had surgery to reduce her stomach to the size of a walnut (I think, not quite sure) and she lost quite a lot of weight and got down to below 25 stone/350lb (160kg) but kept on eating, and so she died . It is simple really: normal consumption + normal exercise = normal weight . Too much food or too little exercise = weight growth . It is not rocket science, 'slow metabolism', genetics or any of the other excuses . As has been pointed out many times, those sad unfortunates deprived of food by war, famine, or poverty become living skeletons, and it is a gross insult to their memory, or their present living conditions and plight to suggest otherwise . Billy	Billy T (70)
1232824	2011-09-22 08:34:00	Without making excuses... My wife is 52kg, I have been over 130kg, we can eat exactly the same meals and do similar amounts of activity during the day, At the end of a month she will be exactly the same weight, I'll be slightly heaver then i was. Over a decade or so that amounted to 20kg of gained weight, If nothing changed in another decade it would be another 20kg. 150kg would be pretty damn fat, fat enough to die at 50 I'd imagine. Of course its up to me to address that situation.	Metla (12)
1232825	2011-09-22 08:44:00	My wife is 52kg, I have been over 130kg, we can eat exactly the same meals and do similar amounts of activity during the day, . Ah but are you including alcohol in that? Cause you have to. I'm fatter than I used to be. Activity dropped off, not food went up. And it's hard to get it back down without either changing food intake forever or increasing activity back up again. Activity back to what it used to be isn't oing to happen again now. I could eat less, but I don't eat hugely so.............what the hell. I'm fat. It is easier to get fat then to reduce though, for sure.	pctek (84)
1232826	2011-09-22 09:08:00	I saw\heard something about willpower the other day. Some guy was saying that if we practice or willpower on small things ie no cigarettes for x days etc this actually increases your willpower. The more you exercise your willpower the stronger it gets. Looking at a few of these weight loss TV programs this seems to be the difference between the winners and losers.(in my opinion)	PPp (9511)
1232827	2011-09-22 10:41:00	Will power for me at least is no issue. I dropped a 20 year nicotine addiction in a day purely because that was the decision I made. I have dropped 20kg in weight, Though any further weightless has been stubborn. Today 6.30am coffee 9.00am banana 10.00am Muesli with low fat milk and a can of peaches 2.00pm Muesli with low fat milk and a banana 5.30pm 2km run 6.00pm Bacon,egg,onion on Turkish bread 6.30pm-Weights,press-ups 7.00pm-uh...a bottle of wine, Lmfao.	Metla (12)
1232828	2011-09-22 11:10:00	People do not become obese overnight, it takes a reasonably prolonged period of gluttony combined with a serious lack of exercise. They are able to watch the progressive deterioration in their physique and loss of muscle tone, but seem to be able to do nothing about it, and it is a self inflicted condition. Obviously to allow oneself to deteriorate into this condition requires a very low level of self esteem. When I was young seriously obese people were relatively uncommon, yes there were a few who were fat and overweight, but today it is a problem at epidemic proportions. Where does one lay the blame, lets try bad parenting, poor physical education standards in our schools, a plethora of junk food outlets, a culture of sports watchers rather than participants, and a surfeit of being a couch potato in front of a TV set from increasingly early ages. Frankly I wouldn't care one little bit if these idiots choose to eat themselves into an early grave, apart from the fact that they place an additional burden on an overloaded health service, and the productive taxpayers of our society have to fund their expensive health care. I strongly agree with those airlines who charge a double fare to passengers who will not fit in a single seat.	KenESmith (6287)
1232829	2011-09-22 11:49:00	Where does one lay the blame, lets try bad parenting, poor physical education standards in our schools, a plethora of junk food outlets, a culture of sports watchers rather than participants, and a surfeit of being a couch potato in front of a TV set from increasingly early ages. I don't agree, In extreme cases you can blame the parents I suppose (I have seen some fat kids) but anyone into their teens is responsible for themselves, unless they have been scarred to the point of mental illness they should take full responsibility for whatever state they are in. A journey of a thousand miles starts with just one step, But no one else can take that step for you. I'm sick to death of adults blaming their parents for their own actions, Its just weak, they need to **** off to Ethiopia and see what real suffering is.	Metla (12)
1232830	2011-09-22 12:25:00	I don't agree, In extreme cases you can blame the parents I suppose (I have seen some fat kids) but anyone into their teens is responsible for themselves, unless they have been scarred to the point of mental illness they should take full responsibility for whatever state they are in. A journey of a thousand miles starts with just one step, But no one else can take that step for you. I'm sick to death of adults blaming their parents for their own actions, Its just weak, they need to **** off to Ethiopia and see what real suffering is. The Jesuits used to say, "give me a child for seven years, and I will own the man." Bad habits picked up in childhood and while growing up, can be bad habits for life.	KenESmith (6287)
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