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Thread ID: 120684 2011-09-20 19:56:00 Whats with the Blame someone #$%* lately?? pctek (84) PC World Chat
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1232518 2011-09-20 23:44:00 The question begs to be asked How is a lone installer meant to tie off a harness and rope system over a roof that high, and as I know from experience you cannot secure a ladder without first climbing it. But then again I do see some dodgy practices here, wooden scaffolding anyone?

In that case why is he working alone?

Its a high risk job, I'd never let nor would any company I have worked with allow that to happen.

However, its dead simple to make safe, a simple anchor point on the other side of the structure and a rope would have sorted it.
Metla (12)
1232519 2011-09-20 23:45:00 Why does it have to be a lone installer? There's no reason why 2 installers couldn't meet at some sites.

What's wrong with timber scaffolding? It has been used a lot longer than any other type.
PaulD (232)
1232520 2011-09-20 23:50:00 some ****, i know him, he is young ****'s brother, or other ****'s cousin
Yep thats the bugga
prefect (6291)
1232521 2011-09-21 01:30:00 Whats with the Blame someone #$%* lately??

The public transport debacle of September 9 was the mother of all buck-passing :rolleyes:
pcuser42 (130)
1232522 2011-09-21 02:16:00 What's wrong with timber scaffolding? It has been used a lot longer than any other type.

So your happy to walk out 3 floors up on some timber held together with a couple of gun nails? I'm certainly not I expect real scaffolding.

Metla your right why are they working alone of course they shouldn't but who wants to pay 3 times the amount to have a sky dish installed, I doubt most sky users wouldn't, and yes it is easy to fix a ladder on your own depending on the building.

I don't make excuses for dodgy behaviour but there are some damn dodgy ones here, one of the reasons I'm not going back to my trade once I have fully recovered from the shoulder problem which indecently was not a work injury just my body crapping out
gary67 (56)
1232523 2011-09-21 02:53:00 So your happy to walk out 3 floors up on some timber held together with a couple of gun nails? I'm certainly not I expect real scaffolding.



3 floors up would put you in this territory

"Standing scaffolding over 5 m high or intended to extend over 5 m, hanging
scaffolds of any height and suspended scaffolding of any height may be
erected, altered or dismantled only under the direct supervision of a person
who holds an appropriate certificate of competency as a scaffolder issued
under the regulations."

AFAIK light timber scaffolding has a limit of 5m and it involves more than a few gun nails.
PaulD (232)
1232524 2011-09-21 03:14:00 So your happy to walk out 3 floors up on some timber held together with a couple of gun nails? I'm certainly not I expect real scaffolding.

Metla your right why are they working alone of course they shouldn't but who wants to pay 3 times the amount to have a sky dish installed, I doubt most sky users wouldn't, and yes it is easy to fix a ladder on your own depending on the building.


Scaffolding in NZ is regulated so if you were expected to walk on what you describe then you should have refused and notified OSH, The only way standards work is if people are forced to work to them.

As for the Sky installer, I was referring to a safety rope he could clip his safety harness to rather then a way to secure the ladder, if he was hooked onto a fall restraint system he wouldn't have any injury and with they are easy to set up. Ideally a ladder shouldn't be used as a working platform just as access to a working platform.

As for cost, Thats a moot point, the cost of having people hurt is far higher, and the pay rate doesn't justify the end result, and some stage someone competent should have looked at that job, quoted a realistic figure to do the work safely, and if the customer didn't want to pay that much then tough.The job doesn't get done.
Metla (12)
1232525 2011-09-21 05:08:00 Harden up you guys.

This is how it’s done. ;)

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B.M. (505)
1232526 2011-09-21 05:55:00 I have watched people working at unreal heights in S E Asia on bamboo scaffolding. In excess of 10 stories. Seemed to be ok but I would be damned if I would go on it. CliveM (6007)
1232527 2011-09-21 06:39:00 I note this guys got gloves on but the planks are a concern. :)

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