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Thread ID: 120785 2011-09-26 07:01:00 Microsoft going to lock windows 8 on machines, no linux or other os. nedkelly (9059) PC World Chat
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1233721 2011-09-26 07:01:00 bit.ly

If windows does this I will go fully Mac or go to linux.
I do want a new laptop at some point.
nedkelly (9059)
1233722 2011-09-26 07:11:00 If it happens, I am going Linux or Mac......

Stuff you Micro$oft.
sahilcc7 (15483)
1233723 2011-09-26 07:25:00 Apple are no better really IMHO KarameaDave (15222)
1233724 2011-09-26 07:28:00 It isn't just the OS, the hardware vendors will also need to provide an (optional) way of unlocking the the UEFI secure boot loader. Brings OEM computers to a new level. Be interesting how this pans out. Jen (38)
1233725 2011-09-26 07:28:00 I'm pretty sure mac's have bee using EFI ever since it went to intel, the hackintosh community have been getting around this problem for a longtime using boot loaders. Not a problem. All this does is make it easier the load OSX on to non apple hardware. Thanks microsoft plod (107)
1233726 2011-09-26 07:37:00 Yet another reason to build your own PC. :D pcuser42 (130)
1233727 2011-09-26 07:59:00 I'm pretty sure mac's have bee using EFI ever since it went to intel, the hackintosh community have been getting around this problem for a longtime using boot loaders. Not a problem. All this does is make it easier the load OSX on to non apple hardware. Thanks microsoft
Not quite.
This means that (in theory) only digitally signed bootloaders, OS kernels and even hardware drivers that the OEM chooses to include the keys for, will be allowed to operate on that piece of hardware.
fred_fish (15241)
1233728 2011-09-26 07:59:00 Apple are no better really IMHO
Sure its not like you can install windows or linux on a mac...
icow (15313)
1233729 2011-09-26 08:05:00 Sure its not like you can install windows or linux on a mac...Apple doesn't mandate signed boot for macs, which is what the article is talking about.

I actually think it's a great idea, provided hardware vendors provide the option to manage trusted certificates and / or turn the feature off. My preference would be for certificate management. Used properly, this is a big step forwards in properly securing a PC, as it means that attacks against the boot process are rendered essentially useless.

Edit: Hardware vendors can't reasonably implement this in a way that only allows Microsoft-signed code to boot without pissing off the powers that be in various antitrust departments, so it's probably reasonably safe to assume that it won't get in the way, although if it's done badly enough it could be a bit irritating to disable.
Erayd (23)
1233730 2011-09-26 09:00:00 It is a brilliant idea - anything that M$ gives the big tick can be safely left out without needing to find out for yourself that it is of Norton grade. It should extend the life of XP a few more years for business users.

Another lengthy suicide note from Redmond or is it just masochism?
R2x1 (4628)
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