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Thread ID: 120760	2011-09-25 07:10:00	Marijuana decriminalisation	bk T (215)	PC World Chat

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1233423	2011-09-26 21:24:00	Users seem to have a few self delusions though. It DOES have adverse health effects, look it up and take the blinkers off. Some of them quite serious. Ok yes there are also medical benefits, but if you use it you should understand the risks. It IS obvious to everyone around you when you are using it, clear eyes does not make the effects invisible. It DOES impair your judgement and reactions and ability to safely drive/ operate machinery etc. If you are one of those people who writes off everything you disagree with as corporate/ government propaganda you will never get the full picture. Truth can come from anywhere, even professional liars (politicians). First off, I don't use it, Haven't done so for many years. Right,Blinkers off, Health. Most marijuana smokers consume a lot less cannabis than cigarette smokers consume tobacco, however the harmful effects of smoking marijuana should not be ignored. Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers typically inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer, when smoking. What About Cancer? Although one study found that marijuana smokers were three times more likely to develop cancer of the head or neck than non-smokers, that study could not be confirmed by further analysis. Because marijuana smoke contains three times the amount of tar found in tobacco smoke and 50 percent more carcinogens, it would seem logical to deduce that there is an increased risk of lung cancer for marijuana smokers. However, researchers have not been able to definitively prove such a link because their studies have not been able to adjust for tobacco smoking and other factors that might also increase the risk. Studies linking marijuana smoking to lung cancer have also been limited by selection bias and small sample size. For example, the participants in those studies may have been too young to have developed lung cancer yet. Even though researchers have yet to "prove" a link between smoking pot and lung cancer, regular smokers may want to consider the risk. Other Health Effects Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors. ok, So that amounts to a big fat nothing. Where they have found health issues is in people puffing on it all day, and thats to be expected, They should be discounted from a normal use study. And in mental health, but until they can exclude people with pre-existing conditions and prove a difference against a control group then that data is also useless. Plenty of people numb themselves with weed due to their head issues, rather then having mental health problems caused by smoking.Its called self-medication. Likewise people who have never smoked weed can and do develop mental health issues through-out their lives. And no one said that everyone can hide the effects of being stoned, some people no one can tell, others are an instant bust. Who cares? The claim that all smokers are somehow unattractive is delusional, You cant tell by looking at someone if they smoked weed yesterday, a week ago, or 6 months ago. Its a retarded as saying "I've never seen an attractive person eat strawberry jam, Show me a photo" People are told weed will destroy you,make you sick,stupid, crazy, They can see all around them this isn't the case, weed is part of NZ culture. Then something new comes along and they are told the same "facts", is it any wonder they are ignored? If it were me I'd de-criminalize weed and ecstasy, let people have something that works and is safe, remove the need to shop for goods through your local scumbag.	Metla (12)
1233424	2011-09-26 22:34:00	Which begs the question: If you're doing it for head (mental / emotional) issues, why not seek treatment rather than avoiding dealing with the issue? If it's for health problems, then there are other currently legal medicinal ways of dealing with things, why go get something that is not legal? I have a relative who claims he only does it because of his health problems, says it eases the pain. I rang his doctor to find out if he'd ever mentioned anything since his operation on his knee / back. He hadn't. That was years ago. He still uses and has since moved on to selling and harder drugs. Why he didn't just tell his doctor he wanted some better pain killers, I'll never know, but this relative is largely a no-hoper now.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1233425	2011-09-26 23:12:00	Which begs the question: If you're doing it for head (mental / emotional) issues, why not seek treatment rather than avoiding dealing with the issue? If it's for health problems, then there are other currently legal medicinal ways of dealing with things, why go get something that is not legal? I wasn't advocating self-medication, It generally leads down the hole and onto much bigger issues. Still, it is better then self-medication via alcohol.	Metla (12)
1233426	2011-09-26 23:16:00	They want to ban smoking altogether in NZ by 2025 Any one who wants to legalise drug smoking is dreaming	Gobe1 (6290)
1233427	2011-09-26 23:39:00	They want to ban smoking altogether in NZ by 2025 Any one who wants to legalise drug smoking is dreaming decriminalise Big difference.	Metla (12)
1233428	2011-09-27 01:20:00	I have a relative who claims he only does it because of his health problems, says it eases the pain. I rang his doctor to find out if he'd ever mentioned anything since his operation on his knee / back. He hadn't. Isn't it illegal for a doctor to discuss your relative's issues with you? Why he didn't just tell his doctor he wanted some better pain killers, I'll never know, but this relative is largely a no-hoper now. Most painkillers are based on opium, and to a point there is there isn't much between morphine and heroine... Prolonged use of opiate painkillers will **** up you way more than MJ.	Cato (6936)
1233429	2011-09-27 01:39:00	The claim that all smokers are somehow unattractive is delusional, You cant tell by looking at someone if they smoked weed yesterday, a week ago, or 6 months ago. Its a retarded as saying "I've never seen an attractive person eat strawberry jam, Show me a photo" So according to Metla I am now delusional :( :( Show me one smoke who has been smoking cigarettes or pot for over 30 years who has a smooth complexion. They all look haggard - and stink to boot. Weed smokers are worse 'cos they are normally ugly to start with. Good looking people have more brains.	Zippity (58)
1233430	2011-09-27 01:51:00	So according to Metla I am now delusional :( :( Yep. And not very intelligent to boot.	Metla (12)
1233431	2011-09-27 01:51:00	On the fence with this one guys. Not a Pot Smoker myself but I know someone (like Chill's relative) that has gone from bad to worse and on to harder things. However I also know a daily smoker of both Cigs and MJ for the last 28 years who has not done anything stronger and is currently working in logistics and transportation, previously a production planner for a company HUGELY recognised in both NZ and Australia. Edit: It depends on the person and the level of well 'abuse' of the drug I guess.	lordnoddy (3645)
1233432	2011-09-27 02:10:00	On the fence with this one guys. Not a Pot Smoker myself but I know someone (like Chill's relative) that has gone from bad to worse and on to harder things. However I also know a daily smoker of both Cigs and MJ for the last 28 years who has not done anything stronger and is currently working in logistics and transportation, previously a production planner for a company HUGELY recognised in both NZ and Australia. Edit: It depends on the person and the level of well 'abuse' of the drug I guess. Why dont you inform his bosses of his drug use and probaly save some lives.	prefect (6291)
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