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Thread ID: 120892 2011-10-01 08:27:00 Any boat experts here? prefect (6291) PC World Chat
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1234856 2011-10-01 08:27:00 I would like to modify my seagull racing boat for next year. My boat was a kiwicat like a hobie cat with a piece of 2" square section aluminium on the back with 2 seagulls. It goes alright got second in its class on first attempt last year but the backwash from the leg of the left side seagull kept going down the carb intake any passing boat or rough water stopped the engine. Also when the boat was at full speed the nose came up slightly and I had to to stand forward to get the nose down to get a couple more kph.
My plan is to turn the frame around and put the motors in the front.
My questions
Will the nose rise with motors on the front?
What will it do the balance, do I need to move the seat and fuel tank aft?
Can I do a c of g balance by say balancing the hull on a bar half way down the hulls with engines on front and myself and fuel to balance it. Is the c o g on boats like an aircraft?
Thanks for any help
prefect (6291)
1234857 2011-10-01 09:58:00 Try changing the Seagulls for Albatross and feed them plenty of fisn'n'chips ... put one foward, one aft ... It'll help with the balance problem ... :rolleyes: SP8's (9836)
1234858 2011-10-01 19:39:00 You normally trim the engines up slightly to drop the nose, but on a manual lift engine you probably cannot do that, Moving body weight forward is the next best thing gary67 (56)
1234859 2011-10-01 19:42:00 Sounds interesting prefect, got any photos? Gobe1 (6290)
1234860 2011-10-01 19:51:00 picasaweb.google.com
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prefect (6291)
1234861 2011-10-01 19:56:00 Nice one, power to weight looks good. Gobe1 (6290)
1234862 2011-10-01 20:41:00 Prefect, I'm not sure why you would want to move the engines to the front. The result is still going to give you a downward moment but at the bow rather than the stern, and increased the further it gets from the COG. I think you'll have to move the weight much further aft to compensate. But my surmise is based on aeronautical assumptions so is probably way out. Let's know what the outcome is. Don't sink the boat in the process :) WalOne (4202)
1234863 2011-10-02 02:40:00 Why not just shift the fuel tank(s) closer to the front? Petroil weighs about .710 a kg. 20 litre would weigh about 14kg (+ the weight of the tank), so shifting the weight forward would make quite a difference on keeping the nose down. For eg just like balancing a caravan when towing. 20 kg taken from the back of the caravan & put in the front = 40 kg weight on the tow ball. Certainly won't take much on a boat. BobM (1138)
1234864 2011-10-02 05:10:00 Still got the problem with wash from the leg going down the carb, you wouldnt get this with a transom. prefect (6291)
1234865 2011-10-02 06:44:00 Are you allowed to put a planing fin on the outboard, like permatrim etc? Ofthesea (14129)
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