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1463945 2019-09-22 23:07:00 The obvious question.. :)

why not just use the Radeon onboard graphics . Why do you need the NVidea card, unless for games ?
If you dont NEED the Nvidea card, remove it completely .
1101 (13337)
1463946 2019-09-23 01:44:00 The obvious question.. :)

why not just use the Radeon onboard graphics . Why do you need the NVidea card, unless for games ?
If you dont NEED the Nvidea card, remove it completely .

You are quite right of course. I'm just trying to satisfy my inner geek in wanting to know what is going on, and trying to decide whether I do get a significant performance boost when the card is in use.
Tony (4941)
1463947 2019-09-23 02:38:00 I recall that when I installed my current GTX 1060 card that I found on booting the system that it seemed to pause for a second or so and then booted straight into windows without the usual screen which lets you get into the bios and other start up options. I figured that the system was taking a couple of seconds to find my GTX 1060 card. I disabled on-board video and it then booted up as per normal.

I thought Wainui would have given us an expert opinion by now :)
CliveM (6007)
1463948 2019-09-23 02:42:00 1)Disable the onboard in BIOS.
You may not see it unless you go to Advanced settings

2)Disable it in Device manager.
piroska (17583)
1463949 2019-09-23 03:36:00 I recall that when I installed my current GTX 1060 card that I found on booting the system that it seemed to pause for a second or so and then booted straight into windows without the usual screen which lets you get into the bios and other start up options .

1)Disable the onboard in BIOS .
You may not see it unless you go to Advanced settings

2)Disable it in Device manager .


Clive, that is exactly what is happening here . See below .
Piroska, I can't see anywhere in the BIOS (ASUS) to disable onboard graphics - that was one of the first things I looked at . And yes, I did go into "advanced" . Also see below .

Things are seriously weird .
The normal setup is Dell flatscreen plugged into Radeon on-board graphics .
The test setup is flatscreen plugged into the Nvidia card and my old Philips CRT plugged into the onboard graphics . It has to be that way because the Nvidia doesn't have VGA .

Under the normal setup I didn't have an option to disable the onboard graphics in device manager, only "uninstall" . Under the test setup I can "disable", but it doesn't seem to make a difference! The VGA monitor still functions as though nothing has changed .

In the test environment:
When I boot up, all the POST stuff and the multi-boot menu appear on the Philips monitor, i . e . via the on board graphics .
Once that is done I get the blue Windows logo on the Philips monitor, then it goes dark and the login screen appears on the flatscreen - i . e . via the Nvidia card .
I eventually get to the Windows desktop on the flatscreen - i . e . via the Nvidia . The CRT shows a blank desktop .

If I go into display settings it shows the two monitors, with the Philips shown as 1 and the flatscreen shown as 2 . I can't see any way to change those designations .

If I now reboot without the CRT plugged in, i . e . just the flatscreen is running from the Nvidia card, everything appears to be working OK (sigh) . Display settings still shows two monitors, but if I click "detect" it not surprisingly says it can't find another monitor, even though there are 2 shown in the display window . The flatscreen is still showing as number 2 .

So in summary, all now seems to be working with no positive action on my part . The thing with the disappearing desktop seems to have fixed itself somehow .

All very weird . I'd definitely like to know how to disable the onboard graphics from the BIOS .
Tony (4941)
1463950 2019-09-23 04:14:00 Piroska, I found the setting in the BIOS. IT is under Advanced. I didn't drill down quite far enough.
So I'm now running just off the video card, and I'm getting the POST etc on the screen. Also it is not showing multiple displays in settings any more, though I guess that could be because of the the reboot.

Still don't know why I was getting the weird disappearing desktop though.
Tony (4941)
1463951 2019-09-23 04:44:00 Piroska, I found the setting in the BIOS. IT is under Advanced. I didn't drill down quite far enough.
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I was going to ask, what motherboard is it, the manual (online if you don't have one) shows you the menu breakdown.
piroska (17583)
1463952 2019-09-23 09:36:00 I recall that when I installed my current GTX 1060 card that I found on booting the system that it seemed to pause for a second or so and then booted straight into windows without the usual screen which lets you get into the bios and other start up options. I figured that the system was taking a couple of seconds to find my GTX 1060 card. I disabled on-board video and it then booted up as per normal.

I thought Wainui would have given us an expert opinion by now :)

Hadn't bothered reading it till tonight -- Lifes tough eh :p


After reading it though, these no great mystery. Some motherboards you can run both on-board and well as a graphic card at the same time, usually when this happens you select which ever is the default ( #1) monitor from within Windows. When doing this one monitor will usually display as normal, and the other is the "slave" meaning until the 2nd catches up the graphics wont display correctly.

I have a couple of customers whom I remote into with dual monitors, and thats fun because Once logged in we need to juggle #1 or #2 monitor.

If its only a single monitor with two possible working outlets then the Actual Motherboard needs to be altered to feed the correct graphics. If you only have a single monitor you would generally set the BIOS to boot / Display the correct Graphics. Lots of motherboards will auto override the on-board.

One thing MANY Have done, ( GUILTY more than once in the workshop as well) plugging into the Onboard instead of a graphic card,and WTF !! No graphics -- Then discover the "oops" :rolleyes::waughh::blush:
wainuitech (129)
1463953 2019-09-23 09:48:00 Thanks WT, your comments are always worth reading.
One thing that nobody has explained is why I was getting this strange blank desktop (post #1), where the "real" desktop could be dragged into view, but always snapped back out of sight. It is all moot now as the thing seems to have gone away, but as I said one of the posts, my inner geek craves an answer. :)
Tony (4941)
1463954 2019-09-23 21:47:00 Thanks WT, your comments are always worth reading.
One thing that nobody has explained is why I was getting this strange blank desktop (post #1), where the "real" desktop could be dragged into view, but always snapped back out of sight. It is all moot now as the thing seems to have gone away, but as I said one of the posts, my inner geek craves an answer. :)
The way its been described sounds a little like since you can use either the on-board or Graphic Card that when the computer starts up its getting confused as to which graphics to load first.

When you have dual monitors, often the main Monitor (lets call it #1) will load and a few seconds later the #2 will load when it catches up. Often the #2 will remain Black /blank until #1 has displayed for a few seconds.

If you are able to drag the working desktop into view then it is loading OK ( but in the background) as a 2nd display.
Also it is not showing multiple displays in settings any more This was actually a good confirmation after Piroska advised to disable the on-board. This way only one is loading. :)
wainuitech (129)
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