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Thread ID: 121019	2011-10-08 00:31:00	Mazda 626 Front Wheel not Spinning	kahawai chaser (3545)	PC World Chat

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1236353	2011-10-09 04:47:00	Been there - done it with a stuck closed waste gate on a bi-turbo'd Mazda once that instantly went into the third lane to my right on the San Diego Freeway at rush hour. I see, it's there to prevent this self torque. No sign or noise of premature failure of the bearing? How would one know?	kahawai chaser (3545)
1236354	2011-10-09 05:06:00	I see, it's there to prevent this self torque . No sign or noise of premature failure of the bearing? How would one know? The support bearing would sound like a low rumbling sound at first . It would progress to a much nastier sound soon after . Actually though - I've seen very few ever get noisy or fail . Most times you can test the CV (the part at the outside of the sub axles) by making slow turns at full left and then full right, in sharp circles, first forward and then in reverse . Any bad CV balls and/or races will make a lot of noise if they are pushed that hard and you can easily hear them prior to their total failure that way . 'Torque steer' is also another symptom of a failing plunger or trochoid joint as they will attempt to keep the axle at one extended position or another and not yield to their normal sliding-plunging designs to allow fairly friction-free extension and compression and you should feel that in the steering too .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1236355	2011-10-09 07:46:00	The support bearing would sound like a low rumbling sound at first. It would progress to a much nastier sound soon after. Actually though - I've seen very few ever get noisy or fail. Most times you can test the CV (the part at the outside of the sub axles) by making slow turns at full left and then full right, in sharp circles, first forward and then in reverse. Any bad CV balls and/or races will make a lot of noise if they are pushed that hard and you can easily hear them prior to their total failure that way. 'Torque steer' is also another symptom of a failing plunger or trochoid joint as they will attempt to keep the axle at one extended position or another and not yield to their normal sliding-plunging designs to allow fairly friction-free extension and compression and you should feel that in the steering too. Noticed bearings in their housing, but look to difficult to remove, if required. I always dismantle cv joints to clean them out, if they only have a ripped boot. Tedious/Hardest part trying to hit first few/last balls in and out. I dismantled the spider plunger once, since I wanted the rollers as spacers for my home made ball joint clamp press. Got surprised when dozens of small thin pins/rods (why have those?) fell out, and also the grease on the inners always seem to be a mushroom soup liquid. Then the stubborn rubber cylinder on the axle has to be slid off to slip the new boot/inner joint on. Can't easily get a entire range of drive axles/joints for a quick swap, which I think is common in the US, straight of the shelf.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1236356	2011-10-09 15:19:00	Noticed bearings in their housing, but look to difficult to remove, if required. I always dismantle cv joints to clean them out, if they only have a ripped boot. Tedious/Hardest part trying to hit first few/last balls in and out. I dismantled the spider plunger once, since I wanted the rollers as spacers for my home made ball joint clamp press. Got surprised when dozens of small thin pins/rods (why have those?) fell out, and also the grease on the inners always seem to be a mushroom soup liquid. Then the stubborn rubber cylinder on the axle has to be slid off to slip the new boot/inner joint on. Can't easily get a entire range of drive axles/joints for a quick swap, which I think is common in the US, straight of the shelf. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The old needle bearings game, huh? They are really quite robust if there's no gaps in them from 'someone' losing a couple or even ONE in the lineup. The mushroom soup means water got in there. That's a water/grease emulsion and it is hiding water and actually harboring oxidation to and of the critical bearings and parts. We get rebuilt and new half-shafts (each side) for $99.00 each here. They come complete with the carrier bearing if they are needed and new everything but the actual shaft itself, which is refurbished.	SurferJoe46 (51)
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