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Thread ID: 121000 2011-10-07 04:24:00 Ship at the Mount - need to reconvene PC World Rescue group Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1235889 2011-10-07 21:50:00 Navy on stand by....some target practise me thinks??

EDIT: removal of the oil cannot begin until Monday....well thats the working week for ya

EDIT2: Now someone enlighten me, why does a container ship hold 1700 TONNES! of oil?? Fuel maybe, but oil?
Gobe1 (6290)
1235890 2011-10-07 21:56:00 Just had a quick read on the Mil MI-26 (en.wikipedia.org). Looks like they could easily do the job of unloading the cargo. It would take a day or two for them to arrive though.

But if they had ordered or requested them two days ago they would be here now !

Or as soon as they realised the ship was really stuck,
Digby (677)
1235891 2011-10-07 22:09:00 With the weather changing in the next few days with the likelihood of onshore winds and heightened sea swells,the outcome does not look good

If it breaches alot of the Bays pristine coastline will be coated in heavy oil

It's the last thing the Bay needs as it has to deal with the PSA saga which could be the end of the entire Kiwifruit Industry and the resultant business and job loss
Lawrence (2987)
1235892 2011-10-07 22:36:00 EDIT2: Now someone enlighten me, why does a container ship hold 1700 TONNES! of oil?? Fuel maybe, but oil?

I'm no expert but container ships burn a lot of heavy oil so my guess is that it is fuel. Bunker fuel is low grade oil left over from distilling lighter oils so its a serious pollutant. Unlike diesel or petrol it doesn't evaporate easily or disperse.

Apart from that ships also carry hydraulic oil to operate their systems. Its lighter and not as bad a pollutant.

Incidentally my wife has been called to Tauranga to help manage the containment work so I'll get the good oil on whats happening from her. :D
Winston001 (3612)
1235893 2011-10-07 22:45:00 There are a few heavy lift helicopters in NZ ... where they are I'm not sure. It would take a lot of expertise to coordinate which containers to take and where from to avoid the ship rolling and breaking up. Don't think I'd like to take responsibility ... might end up being stung up from the yard arm like the captain. (assuming ships still have yard arms these days.. :D) SP8's (9836)
1235894 2011-10-07 22:56:00 There are a few heavy lift helicopters in NZ ... where they are I'm not sure. It would take a lot of expertise to coordinate which containers to take and where from to avoid the ship rolling and breaking up. Don't think I'd like to take responsibility ... might end up being stung up from the yard arm like the captain. (assuming ships still have yard arms these days.. :D)
Yes but they can fly here
prefect (6291)
1235895 2011-10-07 23:13:00 Forget your helicopters. You guys are dreamers if you think thats the way too go. Floating cranes and barges are the best way to get the containers off. How many containers do you think there are on the ship. The ship is 20ks from the mainland. But if you must dream maybe one of these. (www.youtube.com)
:)
Trev (427)
1235896 2011-10-07 23:24:00 I have to agree that barges would appear to be the best option. You would get multiple containers onto a barge but flying one container at a time by helicopter from ship to shore would take a long time. Let us hope that the weather holds. I would not completely rule out the use of helicopters though. Bobh (5192)
1235897 2011-10-07 23:24:00 What the need is to import thousands of tonnes of dirt, dump it all over the boat and then turn it into a disneyland.

There is a company that makes and sells in NZ an extremely superior natural product for just such a thing as this and they have offered it and been turned down. This product is used by amongst others the US military to soak up major spills, but the agency in charge don't want it
gary67 (56)
1235898 2011-10-07 23:31:00 Seem the ship is on a Reef,a transfer vessel may be out of the question due to the proximity of the bottom Lawrence (2987)
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