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Thread ID: 121000 2011-10-07 04:24:00 Ship at the Mount - need to reconvene PC World Rescue group Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1236109 2011-11-02 05:06:00 From an E-Mail just recieved.

Former marine pollution response manager Nick Quinn left Maritime New Zealand (MNZ) last year for a job as response manager at the Australian Marine Oil Spill centre. Ian Niblock, who was national on-scene manager as well as the Northland regional harbour master, also left to take the harbourmaster’s position in Darwin. On October 11, Quinn took over from Rob Service as on-scene commander for the Rena crisis and Niblock replaced Alex van Wijngaarden as his deputy.
That loss of key staff cost us five days of response time – five days in which MaritimeNZ sat on its hands, and in which the consequences of the accident could have been mitigated.

Hmmmm, so the first week wasn't all about "Matters Legal" it was about trying to find someone with half a clue.

Well, you read it on PF1 first. ;)

Some of the faithful will be feeling a bit sick now Digby. :lol:
B.M. (505)
1236110 2011-11-02 05:38:00 BM you are turning into a pain in the arse with your know-all attitude. If you are so good why don't you volunteer your services then we could send Svitzer and all the others home. Stick to playing boats with yourself in the bath.
I like to think of BM, as the forums very own John Minto
plod (107)
1236111 2011-11-02 06:11:00 Hmmmm, so the first week wasn't all about "Matters Legal" it was about trying to find someone with half a clue.



So when your former managers jetted in did they bring the key to the secret cupboard where they'd stashed all the necessary equipment or did they have to wait for it to arrive?
PaulD (232)
1236112 2011-11-02 06:35:00 I like to think of BM, as the forums very own John Minto

I’m worried about you and Richards Avatars.

They’re a bit “Kinky”.

Is it Mum's or Bum's? :lol:
B.M. (505)
1236113 2011-11-02 07:08:00 So when your former managers jetted in did they bring the key to the secret cupboard where they'd stashed all the necessary equipment or did they have to wait for it to arrive?

Well Paul, I don’t think there was a secret key and by the time they arrived to shut the stable door the horse had well and truly bolted .

My informants tell me it’s still chaos .

I would love to tell you more, but to do so would identify who told me, and he’s “Hands On” so that won’t happen .

But of course it has now entered the “Blame Game” and cover up phase .

Of course the problem with any emergency is that “Time is of the Essence” .

As with Pike River the window of opportunity was lost through procrastination .

You see there’s not much point trying to defibrillate a body that’s been dead an hour, now is there, but I’m picking some members of this Forum would try .

Anyway, I’m sure the two enquiries and de-brief will be most helpful . :rolleyes:
B.M. (505)
1236114 2011-11-02 07:27:00 You see there’s not much point trying to defibrillate a body that’s been dead an hour, now is there, but I’m picking some members of this Forum would try.

Charging .... CLEAR ..... :eek: .... well done team .... we got him back ..... :clap
SP8's (9836)
1236115 2011-11-02 10:04:00 Now I hear they are "thinking" about putting marker bouy on some of the containers.

I would have put a marker bouy, a GPS and a big hole in each of the containers in the first few days when we had good weather.

Then find out who to send the bill to.
Digby (677)
1236116 2011-11-03 07:41:00 From “SunLive” local newspaper.

"The Rena salvage operation now stands at a cost of about $14 million.
Speaking at a press conference today at Tauranga Boys’ College Transport Minister Steven Joyce said the cost continues to build.
“The bulk of that amount can be attributed to Maritime New Zealand.”

These costs include the oil recovery operations on the beach and on the water and the administrative costs of handling the disaster.

The $14 million does not include all costs related to the ship’s salvage".


Ok, I wonder if any of the apologists would like to explain how Maritime New Zealand have run up $14M in four weeks when it doesn’t include “Salvage Costs, Oil Removal” etc. :eek:

The cleanup was conducted mostly by volunteers and the Army guys were going to be paid anyway. ;)

So come on Mr Joyce, table your figures and convince me that the $14m has been spent wisely, or in fact actually spent at all. ;)
B.M. (505)
1236117 2011-11-03 17:49:00 I suppose most of it has gone on the operations centre 10 miles away in Tauranga and all the salaries and equipment those bureacrats need.
And hiring all the experts to make lame comments.
Digby (677)
1236118 2011-11-03 18:19:00 There is now 40 odd supervisors getting paid $20 an hour supervising the clean up volunteers

After being on 3 clean ups starting to form the opinion it is getting to be a money go round for some

Went there the other day and are now advising to bring a drink and something to eat as any refreshments had disappeared (not expecting any)

I take they are trying to keep the volunteering going to integrate the operation to the next phaze when it breaks up
Lawrence (2987)
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