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| Thread ID: 121000 | 2011-10-07 04:24:00 | Ship at the Mount - need to reconvene PC World Rescue group | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1235999 | 2011-10-14 02:28:00 | I understand what a boom is, I was saying I have no idea why none have been made available. Clearly there should have been, hence my reference to the point of difference between this incident and the mine, Resources. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1236000 | 2011-10-14 02:31:00 | My dear Metla, I wouldn't think for one moment that you didn't know what a boom is, that was the world at large that doesnt seem to know. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1236001 | 2011-10-14 02:39:00 | BM is out there helping! This proves it... 3280 |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 1236002 | 2011-10-14 02:57:00 | BM is out there helping! This proves it... 3280 :lol::lol: |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1236003 | 2011-10-14 03:10:00 | It goes to Hampton Downs in sealed trucks. See here:- www.stuff.co.nz Thanks Snorkbox. Nice to know it could sit there safely for 50 to 100 years. Tui ad? |
tuiruru (12277) | ||
| 1236004 | 2011-10-14 03:33:00 | It will be making methane gas which they extract from the landfill. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 1236005 | 2011-10-14 05:07:00 | It will be making methane gas which they extract from the landfill. :) "It could be there for years and years and years. We could be talking 50 to 100 plus. Especially if it's low in oxygen, [with] not much water, very little nutrients. This isn't an ideal environment for microbial breakdown." So will it still produce gas? |
tuiruru (12277) | ||
| 1236006 | 2011-10-14 05:08:00 | Booms - simple really . They need to be anchored . And they only work in calm water . The ship is at sea - not inshore - and in deep water (well the stern is) . Booms can't be reliably secured . Plus ships and boats are moving back and forth from the stricken vessel . Booms have been placed across estuaries to stop oil . . . and locals are complaining they aren't working . Which is true because as Maritime NZ already said, they don't work in rough water . Plus this is heavy fuel oil . Its sinks into the water column . A boom can only trap and soak up surface oil and most of the oil is simply going under the booms . Rescue ships at the stern - sounds easy but would you risk a second ship foundering? The tanker has already been damaged and had to lay off . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1236007 | 2011-10-14 05:23:00 | A dash of reality for us and perhaps recognition that NZ hasn't reacted too badly is the story of the MSC Napoli which grounded off Devon in January 2007. Britain sits on the English Channel, the busiest stretch of water in the world with hundreds of vessel movements every day. Britain is also a maritime nation with plenty of resources and centuries of dealing with stranded ships. As recently as 1940 the British Navy ruled the world's oceans. With all of that in their favour, neverthless the Napoli foundered, poured out oil, and lost hundreds of containers overboard which were promptly looted by the British public. No tugs rushed in and dragged it back out to sea. No helicopters promptly lifted all the containers off onto the beach. Oil was lost into the sea and along the coast. The point is that if even England with its huge navy, tugs, tankers, barges, airforce etc can't prevent the same situation as with the Rena, is it reasonable to expect NZ to have a better ability? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1236008 | 2011-10-14 06:04:00 | "It could be there for years and years and years. We could be talking 50 to 100 plus. Especially if it's low in oxygen, [with] not much water, very little nutrients. This isn't an ideal environment for microbial breakdown." So will it still produce gas? Anaerobic micro dudes are actually the best for making methane. (Mixing methane with oxygen is not a totally wise practise - unless you want it to burn / explode.) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
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