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Thread ID: 120990	2011-10-06 20:11:00	Some Pixs Of Trip Home	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1235708	2011-10-06 20:11:00	One of my Picasa accounts --- picasaweb.google.com	SurferJoe46 (51)
1235709	2011-10-06 20:29:00	Those are beautiful Joe! LL	lakewoodlady (103)
1235710	2011-10-06 20:30:00	Wow, some amazing scenery there. Those first few pics aren't too much unlike NZ, south Canterbury and the like. :)	wratterus (105)
1235711	2011-10-06 20:30:00	Nice photos Joe.	Bobh (5192)
1235712	2011-10-06 20:42:00	Early snowfall ? :)	Trev (427)
1235713	2011-10-06 20:48:00	Love the hotdog on the aerial Nice pics too.!	Gobe1 (6290)
1235714	2011-10-06 21:16:00	Wow, some amazing scenery there. Those first few pics aren't too much unlike NZ, south Canterbury and the like. :) Thinking the same thing ... very similar to Central Otago through to the MacKenzie Country ... nice. Just a guess SJ ... but are you getting somewhere close to the Sierra Nevada Mountains ?? Just that there was a sign with California and can't think of anywhere else you'd get snow around that area ... please correct me if I'm wrong.	SP8's (9836)
1235715	2011-10-06 22:02:00	Actually - California can place a pair of lips on me where the sun doesn't shine on as far as I am concerned when I finally drive outta here. Taxes here are taking quantum leaps in the form of 'fees' that don't require a popular vote nor even a warning that they are in place as of midnight that night. Gas(oline) is about 20% higher here in California and sales taxes are again gonna rise as the old 12% tax time statute ran out and Sacramento is scrambling trying to figger out how they can keep their hot-n-cold running secretaries in their private offices if they don't get another $60 Grand pay raise themselves. I am trying to get firmed up on a home in Hamilton Montana (en.wikipedia.org), and I'll automatically get a 10-12% pay raise from there then by there being NO state sales/transactional taxes and the price of gas and tires and everything is lower buy a serious amount. This whole 15 day trip was to find a new residence out of this do-gooder tree-hugging state. Subtract the California-EPA 'Hazard' fees added to every item purchased in California when they are then purchased in Montana, and my actual pay raise on a fixed income to me will go up by about 30% or so with no increase in the actual amount of my Social Security check at all. Rents and houses are cheaper and driver's licenses are cheaper as are fishing licenses (my pet peeve with SoCal). NO smog tests (they have trees) and I can even get a permanent vehicle registration for a little more than a two-year regular registration fee - which is pitifully small in Montana. Food is somewhat cheaper, but the actual quality is surprisingly much better - we tested it out for ourselves. In California, we even have to pay a deposit on flashlight batteries and car batteries and every other battery to assure that we actually take it to a recycling center - where we only get a small amount of that fee refunded or we forfeit the deposit to some pork-faced bureaucrat's brother-in-law in Sacramento. It's all slanted this way - you pay a fee for buying a beverage in a can or jar, and pay a California Recycling fee that in most cases is about 30% of the value of the product itself, and yet you can only return the container for scrap/by-the-pound fractions of a penny refund. It doesn't work out financially - not even on a bent slide rule --- at least not for the trench dwellers. I broke down and bought a GPS (Garmin) after shopping in SoCal for one. In California, it was $179.95+ sales tax + a Haz-Mat/recycling fee. I shopped for the same model in Colorado, Arizona and Idaho, and although they were all over the place for price - but always lower than California, I bought one in Montana for $129.00 and NO tax. Something's just screwy here - right? Anyone here with an accurate slide rule can figure the percentage of difference if they would for me - but as anyone can see, the difference would be substantial. This is just one small, but glaring example of the vast differences in the culture and attitude of Montana verses "The Left Coast", AKA: California. PS: Snow in the Sierras (yes - that's California) is typically there at this time and by the next two weeks I know most people will be using some/all of their vacation time to go skiing there.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1235716	2011-10-06 22:08:00	haha far out Joe, i hope you left with your middle finger raised to California........	Gobe1 (6290)
1235717	2011-10-06 22:18:00	Man that's bad...how long can it go on like that for? Surely everyone bar movie stars is going to be stone broke in a year or two...	wratterus (105)
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