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Thread ID: 121325	2011-10-20 20:20:00	Energy Saving lamps Bayonet ove 100w	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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1238934	2011-10-21 03:02:00	I use energy saving lights in every room in my house with no problems. You should check out the latest ones. They have improved alot over the last few years, and as far as I'm concerned are superior to the old type of bulbs. :)	Trev (427)
1238935	2011-10-21 03:25:00	Can't stand the energy saver ones, cost too much, die quicker than incandescent (even the 'good' brands), slow to warm up and you aren't allowed to just dump them like normal ones. I'll be keeping incandescent for as long as possible, and move to LED when they become sensible. CFLs are a stopgap joke.	Agent_24 (57)
1238936	2011-10-21 06:56:00	We've pretty much standardised on 23W lamps. They give out the equivalent of about 70W in practice. In the livingroom we have 3 ceiling-mount fittings, each holding three of these bulbs. (The three 'arms' of the fittings come out of the fitting, go upwards, and bend downwards near the ceiling so that the bulbs are as high as possible.) The hardest thing was getting an earthwire to the fittings as they are metal. The 3 fittings replace 3 x 200W tungstens that we used to have. In the master bedroom, I duplicated the batten holder with another one about 600mm away. I used black pvc conduit cover to hide the wires. The holders are mounted on a dark wooden beam. I researched larger bulbs at the time but nothing was satisfactory. Using multiple bulbs is the way to go	BBCmicro (15761)
1238937	2011-10-21 07:08:00	Because they need a few minutes to warm up and start pumping out a decent intensity of light the fluros are not suited to rooms that get the on/off treatment. Bathroom/toilet being the worst place to put one, coz most of the time it's in use for 2 mins or less, so it's turned off again before getting into its stride. However, for living rooms, bedside lamps or security lights which are left on for nobody in particular they're a good choice. I've got quite a few now that have died, plus one I smashed by accident. Also had one dud straight out of the box, but overall I'm keen to see the old tungsten lights almost all get replaced with fluro or LED in time. Their low heat also makes them a safer choice if within the reach of kids, spastics or geriatrics. Pity about the mercury content however... doesn't make them a good choice for a bong - not that anyone using a bong really gives a toss about their mental health anyway.	Paul.Cov (425)
1238938	2011-10-21 09:53:00	We find they don't last as long as they should so I am getting an electrician in to check our wiring. That's like getting your waterpipes checked because your taps leak! Wiring just carries the power. If the lamps don't last, either they are getting too hot (perhaps by being used in inappropriate fittings) or you need to have your supply voltage checked. Checking doesn't mean just coming in, connecting a meter and saying "yep, she's oK" either. The voltage needs to be logged over a seven or eight day period to get a proper picture of what is going on. Your local transformer may be delivering a few too many ergs. However, don't forget that lamp life is counted in hours, not years and if they are left on for extended periods you will use those hours up faster. Cheaper means lower quality as well, I have an early Philips energy-saver in my garage that comes on automatically via a sensor and also when the lights are on, which is a lot because I use it as a workshop, and that lamp is about 15 or 20 years old now and still going strong. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
1238939	2011-10-21 13:23:00	Back when things were built to last...	Agent_24 (57)
1238940	2011-10-21 20:33:00	So you are saying that 3 23W energy savers put out the same light as the old 200W bulbs That is a lot of work. But it may be the way to go. But that means the government are putting us all to a lot of expense for dubious savings and the risk of that mercury etc. But it seems to be happening all over the world.	Digby (677)
1238941	2011-10-21 21:36:00	A 20W energy saving bulb puts out about the same light as a 100W ordinary light bulb. Check out Consumers report www.consumer.org.nz :)	Trev (427)
1238942	2011-10-22 00:02:00	They don't make them like they used to.. http://www.centennialbulb.org/	paulw (1826)
1238943	2011-10-22 03:36:00	A 20W energy saving bulb puts out about the same light as a 100W ordinary light bulb. Check out Consumers report www.consumer.org.nz :) I think that is just manufacturers spin !	Digby (677)
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