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Thread ID: 121236	2011-10-17 12:14:00	Why I would not want to live in China	bot (15449)	PC World Chat

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1238083	2011-10-18 04:22:00	I have witnessed similar behaviour in NZ a few years ago. I was walking towards work one morning when I noticed an elderly man, roughly dressed lying in the gutter. You could smell the alcohol as you approached. I could see people pointing at him and continuing to walk past. I was the only person to stop and ask if he was OK (I could see he had hit his head). I had to give his shoulder a shake to rouse him but he appeared more drunk than injured. I phoned the police and waited beside him for them to arrive. I later asked some of the people who walked past him (they worked in the same building) why they didn't stop. Their reply, they didn't want to get their hands dirty and he smelt, and besides he was just a tramp. People seem to forget he is human, someone's father, grandfather, brother or uncle. How would they like their relative to be treated like that, regardless of their 'social' status. I have no hesitation stepping in and getting involved, I hope people would do the same for me.	Jen (38)
1238084	2011-10-18 04:45:00	Saw this on Prime news just now. Reporter said people are worried that they might be blamed, and or it might cost them money to resolve. We forget that China isn't a 'free country'. Healthcare costs, a LOT.	pine-o-cleen (2955)
1238085	2011-10-18 05:56:00	A little kid??!! Hell yeah. That was a rhetorical question pctek. I'm glad you'd be there helping me out.	WalOne (4202)
1238086	2011-10-18 05:58:00	I hope people would do the same for me. You bet. Me and pctek and hopefully more from this forum. :)	WalOne (4202)
1238087	2011-10-18 06:22:00	. . . I hope people would do the same for me . Not a problem Jen, next time you're hitting the turps, send me a txt before things get too blurry, and a lift can be arranged . ;)	R2x1 (4628)
1238088	2011-10-18 16:56:00	There are millions of people in China, this together with a history of oppression tends to make them wear 'blinkers' and concentrate on their own agendas to the exclusion of everything else around them. I have noticed this with Chinese that I know in New Zealand, they are fiercely protective of immediate family, but totally disinterested in others. They have very little general knowledge of China, outside their street. The concept of caring for your neighbor is a learning curve for them in New Zealand. And I thought this was the general opinion of all things US by youse guys! Hmmm. Seems more international rather than just the US being that way. Let's face it - the whole world at the moment is in survivor-mode and this self sequestering is going to become more and more rampant as things get harsher and tougher. FWIW - I try to be more cosmopolitan than people around me in the States, but that only gets one stamped with a Do-Gooder Globalist tag.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1238089	2011-10-19 04:02:00	Been quite a few cases of this over the years. Even remember a UK tv show that staged this in the street with hidden cameras - most people walked past not wanting to get involved. Most people say they would do something but when it actually happens in front of them and they are required to act - they do not. I have to admit there has been a few times when I'm driving to work and seen someone broke down on side of road - "I'd be late to work if I stop" is the usual reason for me. However an accident that just happened - something that actually required me to stop and took priority over where I was going/doing is different.	Disco_Dan (16576)
1238090	2011-10-19 05:54:00	What happened is just so wrong. Human nature though ... if I ignore it; it's not my problem But I do have one other query regards the 2 year old... how long did the parents not notice the kid was gone??? The kid managed to toddle 100 metres and then spend however long at the market before this happened	Myth (110)
1238091	2011-10-19 07:44:00	Article in the " October 2011 Philadelphia Trumpet by Jeremiah Jaques on China and it's pandemic abortion rates of females ", the reason why they probably all just passed by, in the main that is, at least someone did finally take notice. Article goes further "Preference for males has now created an excess of 32,000,000 males under the age of 20". Lurking.	Lurking (218)
1238092	2011-10-21 02:40:00	Saw this on Prime news just now. Reporter said people are worried that they might be blamed, and or it might cost them money to resolve. We forget that China isn't a 'free country'. Healthcare costs, a LOT. Exactly. Details on these two pages: www.reddit.com Last year, when an old woman in NanJing fell down and couldn't get up, a college student helped her up. The the old woman sued the student blaming him for pushing her down in the first place - and won the court case. The judge that ruled in her favor used this reasoning, that common sense dictates whoever helped the woman to the hospital is obviously the person that committed the crime. the-diplomat.com The scrap peddler woman who rescued the girl has had a great deal of harsh comments thrown at her. "When asked what she thought about the negative things that people were now saying about her, Chen said, “I didn’t steal or rob. All I did was to save a child,” as tears began to fill her eyes.’" *The 4th paragraph nails the problem with Chinese society: "China has become an ultra-utilitarian society that concerns itself only with GDP growth, with rich lists, and with test scores. Psychologists have long known that there are two motivational centres in the human brain: one that’s utilitarian, rationale, and self-interested, and another that is social, emotional, and altruistic." It's called the bystander effect. en.wikipedia.org Read the second paragraph here (the-diplomat.com) - it is interesting that the original case for the 'Bystander Effect' has been discredited (but while that may be true, I am sure many people avoid getting involved for reasons given in The Bystander Effect). -------- Similar negligence does happen in other countries, such as the USA. However, on the same day of the 2 year old Chinese girl tragedy, in another part of China, a woman jumped into a lake and swam to rescue a person drowning. When onlookers ran over to praise the rescuer, they were surprised to see that the woman was an American tourist. (Cannot find the news article for this, but it is true.)	Strommer (42)
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