Forum Home
PC World Chat
 
Thread ID: 121465 2011-10-26 20:27:00 Teachers have an easy life - yeah right! Roscoe (6288) PC World Chat
Post ID Timestamp Content User
1240150 2011-10-27 04:01:00 I remember some shocking teachers from my school days and a few good ones also.
My son has a wonderful teacher introducing him to school life so I couldn't be happier.
DeSade (984)
1240151 2011-10-27 04:06:00 The point...

......apart from amusement?

Excellent post.

That aside, My onions are drawn from personal experience, Not what the media is going on about.

My kids have fantastic teachers, This doesn't mean much expect my kids have excellent teachers.
Metla (12)
1240152 2011-10-27 04:26:00 Not siding with anyone here.

Interesting that you are a teacher beetle.

I do hope you are not teaching punctuation.

Ken :devil
kenj (9738)
1240153 2011-10-27 04:33:00 LOL no i only work with 0 -6 year olds......... the written word is not my strong point.

my jobs is more along the lines of teaching them behaviour, boundaries and writing their name, learning colours, numbers and songs.
Things that don't happen in a lot of families as the norm lately. You would be surprised how little or no parenting happens in some house's. or maybe not?

Apart from the fact i am tired, i worked all weekend ( i do respite care)
and my boss is on holiday so Im next in line for all the hoo ha that happens at work, and last week my family was sick........ life just happens,
and I would like to think i am one of those teachers that goes the extra mile, and i dont worry for the glory afterwards. Its quite draining.
But as a side note, being a teacher, english and maths were not a subject i studied during my teacher training, but Maori was........ funny?
Oh Te Reo was compulsory, english and maths were not subjects or papers at all on my course.
beetle
beetle (243)
1240154 2011-10-27 04:37:00 But as a side note, being a teacher, english and maths were not a subject i studied during my teacher training, but Maori was........ funny?

beetle

Funny is not the word that comes to my mind.
More like a scandalous indictment of the political correctness / treaty gravy train that has infected the training that teachers get.
DeSade (984)
1240155 2011-10-27 05:02:00 You know what they say; don't argue with the trolls :rolleyes: bot (15449)
1240156 2011-10-27 05:45:00 Yes there are plenty of people who get paid for 40 hours a week but have to work more, its called salary not wages. So what is the going rate for teachers these days?

My sister -in-law is a principle at a low decile elementary school and she's on about $120K. Seems to go on endless conferences in NZ and overseas,year off for study leave, has lots of holidays and an IT infrastructure at her school that would be the envy of lots of small/medium businesses.. Nearly all male teachers have been force out of primary education is this country by the feminazis in the system that assume that all male teachers are child molesters..
paulw (1826)
1240157 2011-10-27 05:48:00 You know what they say; don't argue with the trolls :rolleyes:

Have some kids, then have a look at the state of education providers available locally then perhaps you could have an opion of your very own to put foward.

The state of crap I have seen over the years has been disgusting.
Metla (12)
1240158 2011-10-27 05:55:00 The sooner National breaks the teacher union's back, the better off we will all be.

I am sick of the way they try to dictate what they will teach etc etc.

Give every kid an laptop and sack half the teachers !
Digby (677)
1240159 2011-10-27 06:24:00 There are some people, who in my opinion, have really embarrassed themselves with the comments that they have made in this thread.

I'll start by declaring that I am a Primary School teacher teaching 8-9 year old children. Teaching for a variety of reasons is an extremely demanding profession that on an hourly basis pays rather poorly. I would easily do a 60 hour week week in/week out ensuring that I keep up with the admin, meeting and planning demands of this job. I consider that the wage I get is okay but not comensurate with the effort and time that I am required to put in to do an effective job. I neglect my own kids/family to a certain degree to ensure that I do this job really well and that does not make me happy. I love the classroom and the kids that I teach (in a lower-mid decile school) are really wonderful but there's so much more to the job than that.

Performance pay is being strongly resisted by the teaching body because it's not equitable with the workplace environment. No teacher has exactly the same student group, socio-economic circumstances and teaching resources/support to work with so how can you fairly/equitably compare them? Teachers in well resourced, high decile schools with a high level of parental support are far more likely to show academic success/progress than those in other schools. With performance pay you're talking about messing with peoples' incomes/livelihoods and naturally that provokes fear/concern.

I have no doubt that there are incompetent/inadequate teachers like there are incompetent/inadequate workers in any occupational group but in my experience the vast majority of teachers are professional, hard working and very dedicated despite the pressures and barriers to success that they encounter. New Zealand is really well served by it's teaching profession but possibly not as well served by the support apparatus, funding etc that surrounds it.

Sacking half the teachers and giving every child a laptop/netbook/tablet (as one contributor suggested) would be a step backwards in my opinion. There isn't the infrastructure in place to support this and kids need effective teaching in the basic core areas more than they need a laptop each ...
Chemical Ali (118)
1 2 3 4 5 6