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| Thread ID: 121381 | 2011-10-23 20:18:00 | Sir Graham Henry, or Sir Richard Hugh "Richie" McCaw? | Zippity (58) | PC World Chat |
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| 1239363 | 2011-10-24 06:35:00 | This. Hey lets knight the captain and coach of a team every time they win a sporting event. Yet if the Warriors won the NRL the word "Sir" or "knighting" wouldn't even be mentioned. This country is full of morons. Sure, If the NRL was a world championship, and if league were our National sport, and if the entire country had just made a massive effort on the world stage to host this world class event. The two aren't even close to being comparable. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1239364 | 2011-10-24 08:09:00 | Either could be knighted. They both deserve it. | Greg (193) | ||
| 1239365 | 2011-10-24 09:04:00 | Sure, If the NRL was a world championship, and if league were our National sport, and if the entire country had just made a massive effort on the world stage to host this world class event. The two aren't even close to being comparable. Metla's right. :thumbs: Arguably the biggest intangible that has only just started to emerge is a feel-good factor, the pride in our country and ourselves. The treaty settlements bullshit, the brown bashing, the parochial attitudes of small town NZ seem to have been (temporarily at least) shelved. As a country we've put aside some of our negative feelings, attitudes, and petty squabbling. There seems a new found confidence in ourselves and a want to move forward rather than dwell on the disasters of the last few years. We need to recognise these changes in our attitudes, and work at making these a part of our national psyche. Richie McCaw at least, as one of the men who sparked this should have the thanks of NZ; let's award him our highest possible honour, The Order of New Zealand. (Actually, not a titular honour so, no "Sir" for Richie) |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1239366 | 2011-10-24 17:14:00 | Based on what? They have a world cup under their belts and their winning % is high 80's?I think you are confusing the team itself with the actual coaching. The team are the ones who do the winning. Hanson and Henry are just the 2 twats who keep changing the team around because they can't decide on a first 15. They have had all this time playing with 45+ players, and yet come crunch time; who was able to replace Dan Carter? They put all their eggs in that basket, and when the handle broke... well you saw what happened. Although they did their part; neither Slade nor Cruden were able to compare. Even Henry admitted during an interview when Dan was first injured "we have told Slade to play his game, and the rest of the team will have to play better" (sic) |
Myth (110) | ||
| 1239367 | 2011-10-24 19:21:00 | I think you are confusing the team itself with the actual coaching. The team are the ones who do the winning. Hanson and Henry are just the 2 twats who keep changing the team around because they can't decide on a first 15. They have had all this time playing with 45+ players, and yet come crunch time; who was able to replace Dan Carter? They put all their eggs in that basket, and when the handle broke... well you saw what happened. Although they did their part; neither Slade nor Cruden were able to compare. Even Henry admitted during an interview when Dan was first injured "we have told Slade to play his game, and the rest of the team will have to play better" (sic) Perhaps you need a run in a management position, I know its hard to grasp from the factory floor, But without the structure,planning,management and strategy of a hierarchy the team would have been directionless and would have failed miserably. The fact that Dan Carter is near impossible to replace isn't because of lack of depth but due to him being far and away the best in the world at what he does. No one else plays at his level, Though I personally believe that both Slade and Cruden played at world class level and good on them, and as for Stephan Donald, He won us the world cup, The back-up, for the back-up for the back-up, Now thats some depth of talent. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1239368 | 2011-10-24 19:43:00 | Ok so we're the top country at Rugby, a sport where there are at best a handful of serious contenders. It's certainly an achievement even if we did choke again in the final, but it would have been a major surprise if we didn't win it at home. None of this deserves a knighthood for the Cup itself - but Graham Henry perhaps for overall services to the game. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1239369 | 2011-10-24 20:24:00 | Not forgetting we, ACC levy payers who pay for all those injuries from this rugby sport. BTW, do they (rugby players) pay any ACC levy? This User Pays system in NZ is not fair. |
bk T (215) | ||
| 1239370 | 2011-10-24 20:30:00 | Not forgetting we, ACC levy payers who pay for all those injuries from this rugby sport. BTW, do they (rugby players) pay any ACC levy? This User Pays system in NZ is not fair. No, Its not, Its biased against Motorcyclists. That aside, it was setup to be extremely fair, no fault, full cover, Everyone pays a little bit and it goes to those in need no matter what their circumstances. You can't expect the state to cover you in the event you get hurt but expect others not to have the same cover, If you got hit crossing the road your medical cover could be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions, Would you then accept all the rugby players (who do pay ACC if they are employed) standing up and saying, screw him, we didn't get hurt crossing the road? |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1239371 | 2011-10-24 21:12:00 | Sure, If the NRL was a world championship, and if league were our National sport, and if the entire country had just made a massive effort on the world stage to host this world class event. The two aren't even close to being comparable. Oh I see, so we can only knight anyone that plays our national sport. Right. So basically, knighting is done on publicity rather than effort/those that deserve it. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 1239372 | 2011-10-24 21:16:00 | No, Its not, Its biased against Motorcyclists. That aside, it was setup to be extremely fair, no fault, full cover, Everyone pays a little bit and it goes to those in need no matter what their circumstances. You can't expect the state to cover you in the event you get hurt but expect others not to have the same cover, If you got hit crossing the road your medical cover could be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions, Would you then accept all the rugby players (who do pay ACC if they are employed) standing up and saying, screw him, we didn't get hurt crossing the road? I do agree with you, to a certain degree. The chances of getting injure in a rugby game vs the changes of hit crossing the road is no comparison. |
bk T (215) | ||
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