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Thread ID: 121521 2011-10-29 07:10:00 Qantas grounds all flights worldwide. Hitech (9024) PC World Chat
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1240721 2011-10-30 03:55:00 Oh sure its all the bad news that people publish -- Oh look how convenient, how people who post parts of articles forget to post only the negative points ;)


October 7: Qantas agrees to a 3 per cent annual wage rise for its 2100 flight attendants which includes a $500 lump sum each year.

One thing also people seem to forget, with a large company like Qantas, it takes more than one person to make a huge decision that will affect the whole company -- Alan Joyce may be "The Boss" so to speak but he cant do changes on only "his say so"
wainuitech (129)
1240722 2011-10-30 03:57:00 I think Allan Joyce is a genius, the only way to break this is to break the union.
Its about time someone had the balls to take on the teamsters.
DeSade (984)
1240723 2011-10-30 04:27:00 I will NEVER fly with Qantas again. We left Sydney to fly to Johannesburg at about 10am. It is a 14 hour long haul flight. After serving us a pretty scungy meal, they then insisted on having all blinds down, and darkened the cabin. We apparently had to pretend it was night. The only reason for this was so that the staff had no further work until just short of South Africa. Lazy bastards. I resolved there and then never to impose on their airline and so-called service again. Richard (739)
1240724 2011-10-30 07:09:00 I think Allan Joyce is a genius, the only way to break this is to break the union.
Its about time someone had the balls to take on the teamsters.

Agreed. Don't forget folks that Australia is still a very unionized country. Way more than NZ is. Why do you think that there are such protectionist import policies over there..
paulw (1826)
1240725 2011-10-30 07:44:00 Like our apples.
:)
Trev (427)
1240726 2011-10-30 07:52:00 I always thought that "Bonus" was an extra payment you got A) When you did something beyond the call of duty. B) If the firm made a profit. That guys $5m a year is likely more than I have ever rceived in my whole life. ( and the next two, added together). PJ Poppa John (284)
1240727 2011-10-30 08:03:00 Qantas workers already get paid, on average, a lot more than many other airlines in the region. They need to **** with their bitching.

And a lot of people seem to assume that a $5mill package = $5mill in cash... much of that is probably in shares etc that will be worthless if the company goes under. Besides, are you really surprised the CEO of a company with ~$15b annual revenues has a $5m pay package?
inphinity (7274)
1240728 2011-10-30 18:29:00 Although accountants will say otherwise, getting aircraft engineering from the lowest bidder is a bit short sighted. I am sure however that the employment service could supply candidates for the CEO's position for quite a bit less than the current incumbent. Saving $4,900,000 on just one salary would look good on the balance sheet, while simultaneously giving some previously unemployed person's family a boost beyond their wildest dreams. R2x1 (4628)
1240729 2011-10-30 19:22:00 Here. (www.stuff.co.nz)
:)
Trev (427)
1240730 2011-10-30 19:36:00 Qantas workers already get paid, on average, a lot more than many other airlines in the region. They need to **** with their bitching.

And a lot of people seem to assume that a $5mill package = $5mill in cash... much of that is probably in shares etc that will be worthless if the company goes under. Besides, are you really surprised the CEO of a company with ~$15b annual revenues has a $5m pay package?

I'm with you, inphinity. That $5m package seems appropriate for a CEO with those responsibilities. It's probably the going rate on the world wide market for CEO's at that level, and if you want to attract the best, that's what you pay. If payment in part is in the form of shares, then it also becomes performance related.

Now Mr Joyce has to prove he is worth it. And helping break the hold of the Australian unions and their ridiculous ability to hold employers to ransom is in my book a good start.

:2cents:
WalOne (4202)
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