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| Thread ID: 123771 | 2012-03-15 07:17:00 | who uses how much of my monthly internet quota | bjocque (1064) | Press F1 |
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| 1265167 | 2012-03-15 20:40:00 | Then he's just changing the IP Address because you've not told Gargoyle to block connectivity from anything it hasn't given its IP Address to (Which matches the IP to the MAC address in the DHCP table, getting around the issue of quotas-by-MAC). Pretty sure there's just a tickbox somewhere you've left off ;) Granted you could still change your MAC Address if you wanted, but that's a damn sight harder to do than firing up task killer to knock off the app, and then restarting the PC after said download is complete ;) Maybe I can explain better ( didn't want to hijack the thread) -- As I said "I think I know what hes doing, just have to catch him at it" Its actually nothing to do with the router that has gargoyle on it or his PC directly. What I suspect is, hes home alone most afternoons during the week, he knows the parents dont get home till 5.30pm, you can see anyone coming up their street from where his PC is - What I suspect hes doing is actually when alone, unplugging the Gargoyle router from the ADSL, and the cable to his bedroom, plugging in another router hes got someplace, hence open season. As soon as its time for someone to come home, changes it back - takes less than a minute. While this IS extreme, the traffic around the times hes home is next to nothing on the router logs, but when others are at home its got normal usage. What mushHead wrote Like it's hard to just not install software in a PC if you don't want it to be logged? Remember the OP doesn't necessarily own/control all the laptops... I can see one hell of a fight happening if it were only going by the router logs. Heres an example: Lets say you have three visitors with laptops, all on the internet at the same time, two people reading and general surfing one using large amounts of data, watching movies, music on youtube - the router will issue an IP address to each Laptop, and not always the same IP every time - unless the owner (the op in this case) assigns an IP address to each laptop, which means going into each laptop and setting it as static, or insists on knowing all three peoples MAC addresses, and then setting up the router as required, who do you charge extra for the over usage, unless you are looking consistently over peoples shoulders to see what they are doing ??? Thats why I put Networx on all the computers here - there once was a large download around dinner time 15GB, no one was doing anything of course :rolleyes: So on it went to monitor - I informed everyone it was there on all computers, and also advised if it was disabled and the logs showed a "dead time" that there would be questions asked as to why and it had better be a bloody good reason. After a week I found the cause, and its been sweet since. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1265168 | 2012-03-15 21:24:00 | Gargoyle always assigns the same IP to the same MAC via DHCP, no need to statically set anything up :) It's a lot harder to make an excuse for why a router has only 30 minutes uptime vs a PC having only 30 minutes uptime. PC's get rebooted all the time. Routers shouldn't. Theoretically it's possible to plug directly in to the modem itself, but if you're clever you'll also disable DHCP on the modem and pop it on an abnormal IP Range etc ;-) It's certainly more foolproof IMO than having it on a PC... |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1265169 | 2012-03-15 22:58:00 | Maybe I can explain better ( didn't want to hijack the thread) -- As I said "I think I know what hes doing, just have to catch him at it" Its actually nothing to do with the router that has gargoyle on it or his PC directly. What I suspect is, hes home alone most afternoons during the week, he knows the parents dont get home till 5.30pm, you can see anyone coming up their street from where his PC is - What I suspect hes doing is actually when alone, unplugging the Gargoyle router from the ADSL, and the cable to his bedroom, plugging in another router hes got someplace, hence open season. As soon as its time for someone to come home, changes it back - takes less than a minute. While this IS extreme, the traffic around the times hes home is next to nothing on the router logs, but when others are at home its got normal usage. What mushHead wrote I can see one hell of a fight happening if it were only going by the router logs. Heres an example: Lets say you have three visitors with laptops, all on the internet at the same time, two people reading and general surfing one using large amounts of data, watching movies, music on youtube - the router will issue an IP address to each Laptop, and not always the same IP every time - unless the owner (the op in this case) assigns an IP address to each laptop, which means going into each laptop and setting it as static, or insists on knowing all three peoples MAC addresses, and then setting up the router as required, who do you charge extra for the over usage, unless you are looking consistently over peoples shoulders to see what they are doing ??? Thats why I put Networx on all the computers here - there once was a large download around dinner time 15GB, no one was doing anything of course :rolleyes: So on it went to monitor - I informed everyone it was there on all computers, and also advised if it was disabled and the logs showed a "dead time" that there would be questions asked as to why and it had better be a bloody good reason. After a week I found the cause, and its been sweet since. Well easy enough to stop them from being able to use another router - change the ISP login password and make sure he has no authority on the account to get it reset again. He must know the password if he was able to setup another router. Unless they are with Xtra then it doesn't really matter what username & password you have for the connection. :( |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 1265170 | 2012-03-15 23:49:00 | Nah coz there's going to be a modem, such as a 1-port Draytek DV-120, which then goes to an Access Point (Running Gargoyle). The kid is replacing the Gargoyle part but not the modem so change it so the modem won't give out an IP Address and put it on an unusual IP range for its LAN interface, then statically assign the Gargoyle device. Gargoyle doesn't run on any devices that do *DSL |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1265171 | 2012-03-16 00:14:00 | Cheapest box to put gargoyle on is a linksys wrt54gl - although they're a little light on RAM they do the job (I have one at home) the only difference is I tend to download the bandwidth file and reprocess it to xml so I have a longer term storage of what the machines are doing (I have a bunch of virtual machines and used to see usage spikes that I couldn't account for). I think there might be some TP Link ones as well. But you can't get an integrated ADSL modem + router that will run gargoyle - mores the pity. But oh well. |
psycik (12851) | ||
| 1265172 | 2012-03-16 02:45:00 | The *cheapest* would have to be either the TP-Link WR741ND (Just becareful which version coz the 2.4 versions aren't quite supported, even though they are supported by OpenWRT), or the Accton MR3201a (1-port). Unfortunately the WRT54GL aren't quite as good with less RAM vs the TP-Link ones which is quite a shame... Coz they were brilliant, but having only 16MB RAM is a bit of a bummer with the latest builds of Gargoyle, really runs best with 32MB. | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1265173 | 2012-03-16 03:38:00 | Well easy enough to stop them from being able to use another router - change the ISP login password and make sure he has no authority on the account to get it reset again. He must know the password if he was able to setup another router. Unless they are with Xtra then it doesn't really matter what username & password you have for the connection. :( Thats the one ( highlighted) Thats what looks like whats happening, going by the logs on the other router, but its damn hard to try and catch him doing it. The actual indicated usage from Xtra, and the router usage dont match, often out by many GB's. If it were someone stealing the wireless it would show via a connection, but thats not happening. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1265174 | 2012-03-16 04:13:00 | It *does* matter if you're getting a static IP so you might wanna get that for a month or two for $5 ;-) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1265175 | 2012-03-17 00:52:00 | Been following this post; what about smartphones who connect to the internet via the wifi - how would one monitor the usage from these devices? | caffy (2665) | ||
| 1265176 | 2012-03-17 03:21:00 | Gargoyle :) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
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