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| Thread ID: 121905 | 2011-11-20 22:33:00 | Maori Television | Ulsterman (12815) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1244542 | 2011-11-22 00:44:00 | Just to fool the innocent (or ignorant) Maori people and make them happy so that they don't make too much noises.:D | bk T (215) | ||
| 1244543 | 2011-11-22 01:07:00 | Ulsterman, I think you have been a bit misguided thinking TVNZ channels are European TV channels, it is a New Zealand TV for all New Zealanders, not just for Europeans in my opinion. What I meant by 'European' is the rest of New Zealand - that is, anyone that does not call themselves maori. I said "European' because I believe the Europeans are still in the majority but that may not be for much longer. New Zealand is quite often referred to as bi-cultural - the maoris and everyone else - and I was referring to the 'everyone else.' |
Ulsterman (12815) | ||
| 1244544 | 2011-11-22 01:22:00 | The Maori own the Airwaves! HERE (wn.com ctrum_and_Airwaves) To be confirmed by Key after the election. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1244545 | 2011-11-22 04:45:00 | The Maori own the Airwaves! HERE (wn.com ctrum_and_Airwaves) To be confirmed by Key after the election. :DNot just the airwaves Squire. www2.careers.govt.nz |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1244546 | 2011-11-22 06:55:00 | Not just the airwaves Squire. www2.careers.govt.nz Yeee gods, talk about blatant Racism. Loved this bit: "Give it a go! There is a surprising number of scholarships available that don't have any applicants, because a lot of people think they haven't got a chance. A good way to find out about scholarships is the career adviser at school or the BreakOut database." Wonder if you actually have to do anything? Oh well, we can afford it, sell a few more assets. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1244547 | 2011-11-22 10:29:00 | @ Iantech. So is the Maori Channel only for Maori then? Its free-to-air, so whoever feels like watching it is up to them. What I am against is the state fully funding it, it should be mainstream and self supporting. I dont see why we should all be forced to pay to preserve the Maori language, if the Maori people want to preserve the language and culture of their ancestors, its up to them, not up to all the other people of NZ. If the Maori culture is dying, its because the decendants of the Maori people arent interested in it. Why should my taxes go into preserving the Maori language when they are not interested in preserving it themselves (apart from the 10 or 20 activists who jumped up and down until the weak Govt of the day caved in to their moaning). Having another race/nationalities culture forced upon another race/nationality goes against the most basic of human rights in my opinion. NZ is getting more and more racially segregated every day and will only end when the Governments structure of favouring Maori changes and the rest of NZ does not treat Maori any different than any other race in NZ. My opinion only and Rant over!! |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1244548 | 2011-11-22 18:41:00 | Its free-to-air, so whoever feels like watching it is up to them. What I am against is the state fully funding it, it should be mainstream and self supporting. I dont see why we should all be forced to pay to preserve the Maori language, if the Maori people want to preserve the language and culture of their ancestors, its up to them, not up to all the other people of NZ. If the Maori culture is dying, its because the decendants of the Maori people arent interested in it. Why should my taxes go into preserving the Maori language when they are not interested in preserving it themselves (apart from the 10 or 20 activists who jumped up and down until the weak Govt of the day caved in to their moaning). Having another race/nationalities culture forced upon another race/nationality goes against the most basic of human rights in my opinion. NZ is getting more and more racially segregated every day and will only end when the Governments structure of favouring Maori changes and the rest of NZ does not treat Maori any different than any other race in NZ. My opinion only and Rant over!! Your argument has merit. Pity out masters don't listen, but then they don't listen when 80 odd % wanted to rid ourseves of the smacking law. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1244549 | 2011-11-22 20:08:00 | IanTech: I heartily agree with all you say. If maori want their language preserved then they should be teaching their language to their children rather than have the rest of NZ paying someone to do it. I have been involved with some of the many other nationalities we have in this country and, without exception, they all teach their children their own language. These people are interested in keeping their own culture alive, which is why you will find many German, Dutch, Polish, etc. organisations where these people get together to keep their culture alive. As yet I have not heard of a maori organisation that does the same. Does that mean they don't care? |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1244550 | 2011-11-22 22:51:00 | And just to add, the Maori we hear being spoken today, is not even proper Maori, its not even some sort of Europeanised Maori and here is why. Extended version: When Maori was first wrote down in english, it was wrote down by early Europeans to NZ who wrote it just the way it sounded to them. Now, if you notice anything about the Maori language, it doesnt have an "F" in it, not one word. So why are all the "WH"'s sounding like "F"'s? Ask a good English teacher at school how you "should" pronounce words like "what", "why", "when" and "white", they will tell you it should sound like "HW" (starting off with a blowy sound such as you would make blowing out a candle and ending in "w"). Europeans dont prounce the words above "fat", "fy", "fen", "fite", so where has this "F" sound used in Maori come from? So the Maori language is a soft language with "hw" sounds and not harsh "F" sounds. If was an "F" sound, it would have been wrote down as such, Europeans had an "F". Find a Maori Elder who can still speak Maori (very, very few elders can still speak Maori because you were punished for speaking Maori at schools etc in the old days), hear them speak, I've heard it only once about 25 years ago, it sounded nothing like it does today from memory. All it is, is some sort of butchered form of the Maori language by modern Maori. And those who teach the Maori language at schools, uni etc arent even teaching them Maori, but continuing to destroy a soft spoken and otherwise pleasant language and turn it into some sort of harsh and almost aggressive language that it is becoming today. Short Version: There is no "F" sound in the Maori language. Ok, thats me done on the Maori language, food for thought ah?? My opinion only. |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1244551 | 2011-11-22 23:57:00 | There was a great programme on MTV last night about the plight of the American Indian at Wounded Knee. | Zippity (58) | ||
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