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Thread ID: 124200	2012-04-11 23:03:00	iPad, windows live mail and email help/question	globe (11482)	Press F1

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1269443	2012-04-12 10:55:00	No, IMAP, POP & SMTP are all completely separate and independant protocols. Using your main SMTP server to send mail, from a "foreign" network, does NOT require the use of SSL or port 465 (or even authentication) unless that is specified by that particular SMTP host. Pretty much ALL providers now do require SMTP AUTH to relay mail, but that's all. Using SSL (STARTTLS is now preferred to the old "full time" SSL implementation as it doesn't need a dedicated port such as 465 above) to prevent transmitting your user/password in plain text over the net when AUTHing is a very good idea. Using an alternate mail submission port (587 is usual) avoids issues with port 25 being rejected from zombie infested 'home-user' netblocks. Basically there are a few different options to solve the problem, but which one will depend on the SMTP server you are connecting to and what it supports. Sounds like a job for a home dial a geek type tech to come and sort out to me. I'll do some reading up on it tomorrow but if not its onto the yellow pages I reckon	globe (11482)
1269444	2012-04-12 11:19:00	Not really. Your mail host should provide any info you need. Look on their website or mail them and ask. Just have a look in your Account Settings or whatever Win"Live"Mail calls it. Under the "sending" or "smtp" section there should be the option to turn on STARTTLS and a place to put your username and password. That should be all you need. (you can try it for POP / IMAP too if you want). Just take note of the current settings first so you can put it back if it doesn't work as expected.	fred_fish (15241)
1269445	2012-04-12 19:54:00	Again, STARTTLS is the preferred mechanism as it implements SSL encryption on standard ports. Unlike mail clients iPads etc don't have the option for STARTTLS - SSL is the only option.	Safari (3993)
1269446	2012-04-13 08:15:00	Your mail host should provide any info you need. Look on their website or mail them and ask. My mailhost being telstra or roundcube ? This is the bit that confuses me, when you configure outgoing mail i out the name of the isp i am using at the time, how does one make this automatically update to reflect which isp i am using at the time ? again apologies if i am not making this very clear or not getting the basics here, thanks	globe (11482)
1269447	2012-04-13 08:49:00	My mailhost being telstra or roundcube ? This is the bit that confuses me, when you configure outgoing mail i out the name of the isp i am using at the time, how does one make this automatically update to reflect which isp i am using at the time ? again apologies if i am not making this very clear or not getting the basics here, thanks Roundcube is just an email client isn't it You need to use your Telstra username and password in the SMTP settings and leave the outgoing server set to telstra all the time. You need to set security in the SMTP settings to SSL or STARTTLS Above is provided Telstra support secure authenticated SMTP, you may want to give them a call to check if they do. Telstra support will guide you through setting it up provided they offer secure SMTP	Safari (3993)
1269448	2012-04-13 08:50:00	My mailhost being telstra or roundcube ? Roundcube is a webmail system, not a mail provider. What is the domain name parts of the email addresses? ( @clear.ne.nz ... etc ) This is the bit that confuses me, when you configure outgoing mail i out the name of the isp i am using at the time, how does one make this automatically update to reflect which isp i am using at the time ? It doesn't. That's the point of setting up authentication, so that you choose one SMTP server and then you can use it wherever you are. again apologies if i am not making this very clear or not getting the basics here, thanks It's fairly straightforward once you understand the process :) but there is a lot of jargon involved.	fred_fish (15241)
1269449	2012-04-13 09:00:00	What is the domain name parts of the email addresses? ( @clear.ne.nz ... etc ) it is a website address for example, mail@xyz.co.nz rather than clear.net.nz or vodafone.co.nz etc. Also I am currently using a POP system so if I switch everything to IMAP do all the mails transfer over to the IMAP or do i need to do something clever to keep them - on all the devices I am using i have ticked that the message should remain on the server. cheers guys	globe (11482)
1269450	2012-04-13 09:09:00	would using icloud be a better way of achieving what i am after maybe ? (presuming you can set up 2 or 3 email addresses using icloud)	globe (11482)
1269451	2012-04-13 09:11:00	Hmm, just checked out clear.net.nz and it seems they don't do SSL/STARTTLS or SMTP AUTH unless you pay for their mail+ ... piss poor in this century! OK, so it is a mail server provided by your webhost as part of a website package? Which host - better yet, what is the domain name? PM me if you don't want to post it.	fred_fish (15241)
1269452	2012-04-13 09:20:00	Hmm, just checked out clear.net.nz and it seems they don't do SSL/STARTTLS or SMTP AUTH unless you pay for their mail+ ... piss poor in this century! OK, so it is a mail server provided by your webhost as part of a website package? Which host - better yet, what is the domain name? PM me if you don't want to post it. Terlstra clear is the home ISP, the business one is vodafone so maybe can use that instead if they offer the service i need ?	globe (11482)
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