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| Thread ID: 122042 | 2011-11-27 05:26:00 | The Holy Ghost. | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1245820 | 2011-11-27 19:40:00 | I am an infrequent Church goer, but when I do I am told of God, Jesus and The Holy Ghost . I have yet to find out who the Holy Ghost is . Can anyone enlighten me? It is their way of getting around the whole 'mono-theism' thing . "wait that means there is three Gods?" "Oh yeah, okay lets call it a 'trinity' and make them all the same God - that way we still beat the Pagens!" Illogical and irrational thinking from an illogical and irrational group . At the end of the day Christians are scared into joining an imaginary celestial dictatorship which they join up as willing sheep . Have you threatened your child with eternal damnation today? |
Disco_Dan (16576) | ||
| 1245821 | 2011-11-27 20:23:00 | The fact that mzee asks this lunatic question..... | Scouse (83) | ||
| 1245822 | 2011-11-27 20:29:00 | American evangelicals have a lot to answer for (and I don't just mean line dancing:eek:) but I wouldn't knock religion because of them. There's a geek explanation for the Trinity that goes something like this. (The explanation is in the domain of logic because God is outside space and time and reality in general.) (1) God exists (2) But saying (1) implies that someone other than God also exists, namely the person saying (3) Therefore the minimum number of persons that can exist is two ie, God is at least two persons (4) There is a logical reason for calling one the Father and the other the Son. If we have an entity A, this defines an entity B, being 'other-than-A'. A is logically prior to B, and is in a sense the 'father' of B. They default to being equal. One does not exist before the other. (5) Christians (other than Jehovah Witnesses) say that the minimum number of persons actually is 3, a gratuitous piece of information provided by Jesus Christ (6) I cannot recall the entire geek explanation of the third person but it goes something like this: God is not a scalar but a vector. The directedness of A and B is towards each other. This mutuality defines C as 'other-than-this-mutuality' or something like that. I came across this explanation as an extension of the Anthropic Principle. It says that the past logically has to be the way it is because of us who are thinking about the past. Similarly, God has to be two persons for there to exist someone to be thinking about the existence of God. Or something like that. |
BBCmicro (15761) | ||
| 1245823 | 2011-11-28 02:15:00 | American evangelicals have a lot to answer for (and I don't just mean line dancing:eek:) but I wouldn't knock religion because of them. Why? Prove religion |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1245824 | 2011-11-28 03:58:00 | Why? Prove religion They have had thousands of years to provide evidence for any one of the thousands of Gods man has invented over the years. As yet not a single shred of evidence has been found for the existence of any God. Personally I'm glad we are not born into a celestial dictatorship where we have to spend our lives appeasing a God. |
Disco_Dan (16576) | ||
| 1245825 | 2011-11-28 04:05:00 | Not really a question for a PC forum eh? | pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
| 1245826 | 2011-11-28 05:41:00 | Prove religion As I understand it, the essence of religion is that we 'are seen', rather than 'see'. It's like a folder in a directory structure. The folder sees all the files below but cannot see what's above. An intelligent folder would not laugh at the suggestion there was something above it |
BBCmicro (15761) | ||
| 1245827 | 2011-11-28 06:25:00 | Religion is the ultimate aim of charlatans everywhere. Pay now, get rewarded posthumously. Money cheerfully refunded if not satisfied. Politicians get pretty close. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1245828 | 2011-11-28 08:56:00 | Billy Connelly once tried suing the Holy Ghost ... or was that God ... | SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1245829 | 2011-11-28 23:09:00 | I've just finished reading "The GOD Delusion" by Richard Dawkins and a more thoughtful, insightful, lucid and complete demolition of religions and all they stand for would be hard to find. Regardless of your faith or lack of it, it is a book well worth reading. After reading it there is no middle ground left to stand on and no room for prevarication. You are either enlightened or irrevocably obtuse. He makes Occam's Razor look like a blunt instrument. Cheers Billy 8-{) I'm not a 'ist' or a 'ic', I'm a thinking breathing human |
Billy T (70) | ||
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