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Thread ID: 122174 2011-12-06 00:17:00 And the poor get poorer Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1247351 2011-12-06 09:35:00 I'd hope they would have already proved their capabilities and worthiness of running a countries finances by running their own finances at the highest level before being put in charge.

[Insert Jewish stereotype here]
Cato (6936)
1247352 2011-12-06 09:57:00 [Insert Jewish stereotype here]

Helen Clarke for example?

No?

Damn, Jewish stereotype doesn't fit.
Metla (12)
1247353 2011-12-06 10:36:00 Helen Clarke for example?

No?

Damn, Jewish stereotype doesn't fit.

You know, our prime minister... The wealthy Jewish investment banker, also a Freemason... Selling off this country's assets... Protocol of the Elders of Zion... That sort of thing...
Cato (6936)
1247354 2011-12-06 10:41:00 You know, our prime minister... The wealthy Jewish investment banker, also a Freemason... Selling off this country's assets... Protocol of the Elders of Zion... That sort of thing...

Nope, don't follow.
Metla (12)
1247355 2011-12-06 10:46:00 Nope, don't follow.

I figured, you don't seem like the tinfoil-hat sort of fellow :)
Cato (6936)
1247356 2011-12-06 17:32:00 www.nzherald.co.nz

in New Zealand the gap widened mainly between about 1988 and 1996 and has since stabilised at slightly above the OECD average.
pctek (84)
1247357 2011-12-06 18:18:00 The only way for the poor to become better off is by their own individual efforts. Increasing the minimum wage achieves absolutely nothing as everything else would increase at exactly the same rate. Sitting on your rear end waiting for the taxpayer to give you more for doing less just does not cut it. It is never going to be a long term solution. I have no problem helping those in need but no time for those who's sole motivation is greed. It is lefty governments buying votes that has got the world economy into the position it is now in. Yes I know that there are greedy ars....s taking advantage of the situation to make a fortune, I don't like that either. CliveM (6007)
1247358 2011-12-06 19:36:00 The only way for the poor to become better off is by their own individual efforts.Agreed.
Increasing the minimum wage achieves absolutely nothing as everything else would increase at exactly the same rate. Disagree. If everyone were on the minimum wage, maybe, but most are higher paid and would not be effected.
Sitting on your rear end waiting for the taxpayer to give you more for doing less just does not cut it. The current benefit to job transition path, usually ends up with the person getting less for more, and also does not cut it, if you are trying to live day to day..
It is never going to be a long term solution. I have no problem helping those in need but no time for those who's sole motivation is greed. It is lefty governments buying votes that has got the world economy into the position it is now in.There are also righty govts flat out shovelling pooloads of "other peoples money" into the coffers of their mates and their business interests.
Yes I know that there are greedy ars....s taking advantage of the situation to make a fortune, I don't like that either.Capitalism for the Poor & Socialism for the Rich seems to be the current 'in vogue' model.
Handouts to beneficiaries is wrong, but handouts to out-of-pocket investors seems to be just fine ...
fred_fish (15241)
1247359 2011-12-06 20:38:00 Increasing the minimum wage achieves absolutely nothing as everything else would increase at exactly the same rate.

i agree with this as it would drive inflation and would affect everyone not just the minimum wage
Gobe1 (6290)
1247360 2011-12-06 21:00:00 So prices of burgers & bottom end retail go up a wee bit ...
Who else is on minimum wage?

There are far bigger factors on inflation than the meagre wages of a small minority of workers.
There is no similar outcry about inflation when business costs are increased in other ways, ACC increases, insurance increases, bank profit increases, directors remuneration increases (!) etc.
Being "competitive and efficient" by paying your staff as little as possible is a retarded way do business.
fred_fish (15241)
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