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Thread ID: 122303 2011-12-14 05:44:00 Getting a job Metla (12) PC World Chat
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1248611 2011-12-18 03:23:00 I'm curious to know some examples in that photo.

Of what they are doing wrong?

They are loading up the floors with debris, It not only puts the weight on parts of the building that aren't structural and can cause collapse but it hides any visual indicators that a fault is happening. Plus it makes moving around the site difficult for man and machine, And when plant is moved over debris rather then over a clean level slab it causes shock through the structure.

Secondly it looks like they have just randomly pushed crap off the building, To do it properly they should have a nominated area, well fenced and controlled by spotters, That one area needs to be cleaned out daily at least. Otherwise you end up with a messy dangerous site and then you have to try and clean it up while demolition is being carried out above you.The pressure will come on when the building demolition catches up with the debris on the ground. This is incompetence on a grand scale and there is no way anyone with such a poor grasp on what they are doing should be allowed on a high-rise demolition.

Also, they should have a plan in place so that they are on the next floor down, surrounded by walls rather then an uncontrolled drop, You use the existing structure as your safety rail, and have a secondary machine moving the rubble to the disposal point/area. It takes a little extra thinking but it can easily be done in a safe manner.

The building itself should probably be propped on each floor to provide a safe working platform for the excavators, This is usually done to the design of an engineer who has studied the building construction, the demolition methodology and the expected shock to the structure, Going by that mess I'd say none of that has been done.

Neither of the two men are in vests, if they were they stick out like dogs balls, no matter what anyone's opinion of vests are, they work a treat. And they should have some working at heights gear if they are going to be wandering around like that, It takes 3 minutes to drill an attachment point into the slab, and less then 5 seconds to click onto it.

Lastly the engine cover on that pile of crap excavator is most likely in a raised position because its over-heating, or breaking down, Which is not the quality of gear you need to be using in a high risk environment.
Metla (12)
1248612 2011-12-18 03:26:00 Just to add to that, If a machine goes through the floor of a building they generally go though the next one as well...and the next and the next, and they don't stop until they hit the ground floor or end up in the basement where they are then smashed with falling debris, If the fall doesn't kill them then there is a good chance what followes then down will, either by further impact, suffocation or making it impossible to perform a rescue.

Its very rare that anyone lives through such an incident.
Metla (12)
1248613 2011-12-18 04:53:00 Not many years ago two days assessment centres were in vogue for jobs - I always thought they must be testing perseverance. Although in all honesty I reckon that even after two days it will come down to gut feel. That's why I interview over a coffee first - gets rid of the ones who fail the gut feel test (as well as the ones who just out right lie in their CV). Twelvevolts (5457)
1248614 2011-12-19 01:04:00 Nailed it.

The hardest part was holding in my pee during an hour long interview and a half hour site, And when it came to filling up the jar the torrent wouldn't stop.

Anyhow, I'm happy with how it went, Now its just to wait and see what they decide.
Metla (12)
1248615 2011-12-19 01:50:00 Good luck Metla. Snorkbox (15764)
1248616 2011-12-19 02:10:00 Lets hope you really did nail it, sounds like you could do with a break gary67 (56)
1248617 2011-12-19 04:01:00 Lets hope you really did nail it, sounds like you could do with a break

Nah, I'm an ********, I get plenty of breaks, Get everything all sweet, then I throw it all away.
Metla (12)
1248618 2011-12-19 04:09:00 You cant be all that bad, youre still here, teddy bear bits and fluffy slippers and all......:D
:) and you made me a puter and it is still going......... might be time for a new one, but oh well.....
beetle
beetle (243)
1248619 2011-12-20 21:41:00 Good luck , Metla KarameaDave (15222)
1248620 2011-12-20 21:59:00 Grats Metla hope you get it.

Things are not so great with me, few more interviews but no offers yet.
DeSade (984)
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