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| Thread ID: 122404 | 2011-12-19 12:37:00 | I hope those that live in Auckland have other means of Transport. | Snorkbox (15764) | PC World Chat |
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| 1249611 | 2011-12-20 22:53:00 | It will be interesting to see if you still think the same when you have been around for a few more years. My children all seemed to go through a "save the world, lefty, greenie" phase but now have a more balanced outlook on life. I guess working for a living and raising a family tends to do that to most of us. :) Bit hard when I'm this deep in :p Also there's plenty of other people you can talk to, including someone who's an Apple geek for a living and a former signalman ;) |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1249612 | 2011-12-20 23:40:00 | Starting to look like pcuser42 is a member of Len Brown's fan club. Starting to look like CliveM is a myopic National supporter. You've not researched your facts at all, and base your judgements of the Auckland rail network based upon the view from the navy blue swivel chair you sip your latte from in Otahuhu. These are the facts that certain politicians didn't want to know about during their 2008 term: Fact: Auckland rail patronage has grown 15% year upon year, 300% since the early 90s. Fact: Auckland's rail capacity has been reached - with trains full of passengers from all lines, and there not being any capacity at any junction in the network to add more trains to relieve pressure. Fact: Trains are well patronised during the weekend, particularly for those going to shopping destinations such as Sylvia Park, Dressmart, Westfield WestCity, etc. Fact: We face a shutdown at Christmas in order to improve the frequency, reliability and capacity of the rail network. As most people are taking their usual once a year trip on the Holiday Highway to get to the beaches of Northland, the network is naturally lightly patronised. Open your mind, CliveM. We're not all blue-blooded, petrol-headed Windows trolls. |
darkie (16661) | ||
| 1249613 | 2011-12-21 01:51:00 | I am more than happy to listen to other viewpoints on almost any subject. On rare occasions I am convinced that I have been mistaken and change my own view. Not often though :). Darkie because you state something does not make it a fact. If you wish to quote statistics at the very least give references otherwise it is just a lot of garbage you have made up. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1249614 | 2011-12-21 01:56:00 | I am more than happy to listen to other viewpoints on almost any subject. On rare occasions I am convinced that I have been mistaken and change my own view. Not often though :). Darkie because you state something does not make it a fact. If you wish to quote statistics at the very least give references otherwise it is just a lot of garbage you have made up. Of course, Auckland Transport publishes its statistics monthly via its business reports available on its site, along with a rail performance report which tells of all Aucklands woes. If you had done your research, you'd know where I got my stats from before coming to your unsubstantiated conclusions. |
darkie (16661) | ||
| 1249615 | 2011-12-21 02:43:00 | Of course, Auckland Transport publishes its statistics monthly via its business reports available on its site, along with a rail performance report which tells of all Aucklands woes. If you had done your research, you'd know where I got my stats from before coming to your unsubstantiated conclusions. That, and most trains show brief monthly performance results inside. | pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1249616 | 2011-12-21 06:33:00 | That is a sales pitch by vested interests not valid statistics. The rail plan for Ak was produced by the people that run it not by impartial experts. | CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1249617 | 2011-12-21 06:35:00 | They do not go many places that suit most of the population. They are ok for those who live and work somewhere along the line but that is a quite small number of us. | xpresshred (16656) | ||
| 1249618 | 2011-12-21 06:39:00 | That is a sales pitch by vested interests not valid statistics. The rail plan for Ak was produced by the people that run it not by impartial experts. The rail plan? What rail plan are you referring to? If you're referring to a certain CBD Rail Link, don't make me start list the number of independent, impartial consultants assigned to the project - all of which are known names. As for the business reports I referred to: www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz and with regards to rail performance issues and why our network is beyond capacity now: www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz(i)%20-Open%20-%20%20Rail%20Services%20Performance.pdf |
darkie (16661) | ||
| 1249619 | 2011-12-21 06:42:00 | They do not go many places that suit most of the population. They are ok for those who live and work somewhere along the line but that is a quite small number of us. By my calculations 40% of the entire Auckland region are within 1km of a railway station. That is hardly a "small number". |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1249620 | 2011-12-21 06:45:00 | By my calculations 40% of the entire Auckland region are within 1km of a railway station. That is hardly a "small number". And, at this time Auckland Transport is slowly reviewing the bus network in an effort to rationalise routes and ensure that some routes begin to feed the rail network. This extends the reach of the rail network quite effectively, and with the introduction of integrated ticketing, switching between modes of transport becomes affordable and trivial. |
darkie (16661) | ||
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