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Thread ID: 124398 2012-04-24 08:51:00 New computer power issue? hueybot3000 (3646) Press F1
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1271680 2012-04-24 09:48:00 Here's a similar prob (forums.seagate.com) Speedy Gonzales (78)
1271681 2012-04-24 10:08:00 Knew I was making a mistake ordering him a Seagate drive. I reinstalled the sata driver and that seems to have improved things. No issues yet after a few restarts. Will try a cold boot in the morning and see what happens. I will also look at firmware updates and update it if there is one.

Cheers for your help as always
hueybot3000 (3646)
1271682 2012-04-24 10:12:00 I will try another psu i think and go from there.

Not to be rude but ****ed if Im going to buy another key when I have one sitting there doing nothing. You may to eliminate one component at a time - the descriptions you gave can be cause by any one of several components.

Nothing wrong with seagate drives, they can give problems just the same as any other drive, Eg: WD's. I had a run of 6 drives all new over a few months all fail within 1 month of usage, different sizes and batches , one even failed while I was installing windows.

re the key -- doesn't worry me in the slightest what you do -- its you that could be fined if MS caught you -- there was a shop up north not so long ago fined for doing exactly that.
wainuitech (129)
1271683 2012-04-24 10:22:00 What grounds do they have to fine me? The key has been paid for. I can buy any other license and use it on whatever computer I like. If I was to upgrade my home computer would I really get a new license to go with the new hardware? I don't think so hueybot3000 (3646)
1271684 2012-04-24 10:35:00 If the key was removed from a another device Eg: the COA on the back of the laptop, as you mentioned a shagged laptop, then the original key would have been OEM - OEM keys are linked to the original hardware and not transferable to other computers. If the original computer dies the key dies with it.



If I was to upgrade my home computer would I really get a new license to go with the new hardware? I don't think so
if you mean upgrade as in the whole computer, then legally YES.

Copied from Microsoft:
OEM licenses of Windows:
are bound to the first computer installed on and are not transferable
cannot do an in place upgrade from older versions of Windows
offer no free support from Microsoft
allow hardware upgrades of all components except for the motherboard (unless because the original motherboard becomes defective)


Read the licence agreements regarding OEM licensing. I looks like the actual knowledge of licensing is unknown.
wainuitech (129)
1271685 2012-04-24 10:45:00 OEM is a pain in the but but damn its cheap. Slankydudl (16687)
1271686 2012-04-24 10:51:00 just looked up the actual wording regarding your question about upgrading a PC / new license.The following is directly from Microsofts OEM site Regarding the OEM licensing.
an end user can upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on a computer—except the motherboard—and still retain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created. Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred to the new computer, and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do not need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement motherboard is the same make/model or the same manufacturer's replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer's warranty. ;)
wainuitech (129)
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