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Thread ID: 124355	2012-04-22 02:07:00	This is crazy, by computer won't boot!	ChazTheGeek (16619)	Press F1

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1271139	2012-04-22 21:57:00	I did some tests and my secondary drive has a bad block, what does that mean?	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1271140	2012-04-22 22:48:00	It means theres a part of the disk that can't reliably read or write data, possibly due to a physical defect. It's not a good sign and can be the beginning of a drive failure. If it's new and under warranty contact your supplier and ask them what to do about it, a replacement may be in order. If it's not under warranty for now keep an eye on it, run a scan every few days and make sure no more errors are occuring. If the bad blocks increase the drive is probably on it's way out, if not it may just be a single defect. Also +1 on what paul said check all your drive cables are secure and in good condition. One point I'd like to mention, if you have errors occuring over multiple drives or get corrupted files on what you think are good drive, check the memory. All data passes through it and it can give the appearance of drive faults.	dugimodo (138)
1271141	2012-04-22 23:27:00	Dugi pretty much sums it up. Hopefully your drive now has that block marked as bad and will avoid writing any data to that location. For any data already in that location it may no longer be accessable although in many cases the drive will recovery any data and relocate it elsewhere. A HDD with a bad block or sector could (in most cases "will") eventually develop more and more bad areas and will become un-usable. There is no time frame on when this will be, it may last years with a bad block or it could develop more bad sectors at an increasing rate and last only a matter of months. To test your memory, I use memtest86 ( (it is bootable so make sure you boot to your CD drive on system startup). If you have faulty memory, some retailers/suppliers" target="_blank">www.memtest.org/) download the ISO, burn to CD and run. (it is bootable so make sure you boot to your CD drive on system startup). If you have faulty memory, some retailers wont replace it unless this test has been performed. Personally, for peace of mind, I would be looking at replacing the drive.	Iantech (16386)
1271142	2012-04-23 00:04:00	Ok thanks for letting me know. The secondary drive is only about 3 months old, I should be able to get a replacement. Is there somewhere I can send it other than Seagate itself because that's where I got it from...that was also a replacement drive. Go here to see the details : pressf1.pcworld.co.nz Do you people know where I could send it, instead of Seagate itself as it costs a lot to send ??? I'll back it up straight away! :help::badpc:	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1271143	2012-04-23 00:54:00	Can you post a pic like you did with that trademe drive you got in that other thread showing the drive label. Can you also post a screen shot of your drive result that shows bad sectors/blocks. Thanks.	Iantech (16386)
1271144	2012-04-23 01:25:00	I've already done a warranty check on Segate's website and the warranty has run out.:crying 3746 The secondary drive is the first one on the list (the Seagate drive) ----Here is the system report -----:stare: You will find the bad block under event log... I can't take a picture of the drive yet as it is backing up. If I did a screen shot of the report it would be too large. Advanced SystemCare Diagnose Report v1.0 Date: 2012/04/23 11:59:17 ---------------------------------- 01 - Operating System ---------------------------------- 0101 - Operating System : Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) 0102 - Language : English (Regional Setting: English) 0103 - BIOS : BIOS Date: 05/01/07 12:14:22 Ver: 08.00.12 0104 - Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz 0105 - Memory : 2048MB RAM 0107 - Page File : 623MB used, 2614MB available 0108 - Windows Dir : C:\WINDOWS 0109 - DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) 0110 - DX Setup Parameters : Not found 0114 - DxDiag Version : 5.03.2600.5512 ---------------------------------- 02 - Processor ---------------------------------- 0201 - Caption : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ x2 ~2109MHz 0202 - Current Clock Speed : 2109MHz 0203 - L1-Cache : 128.00 KB 0204 - L2-Cache : 1.00 MB ---------------------------------- 03 - Video Adapter ---------------------------------- 0301 - Card Name : NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 0302 - Manufacturer : NVIDIA 0303 - Chip Type : GeForce GT 520 0304 - DAC Type : Integrated RAMDAC 0305 - Device Key : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1040&SUBSYS_83A01043&REV_A1 0306 - Display Memory : 1024.0 MB 0307 - AdapterRAM : 1.00 GB 0308 - Current Mode : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz) 0309 - Monitor Name : Plug and Play Monitor 0310 - Driver Name : nv4_disp.dll 0311 - Driver Version : 6.14.0012.9610 0312 - Driver Language : English 0313 - DDI Version : 9 (or higher) 0315 - Driver Beta : False 0316 - Driver Debug : False 0317 - Driver Date : 3/1/2012 11:58:00 0318 - Driver Size : 4309760 0319 - VDD : n/a 0320 - Mini VDD : nv4_mini.sys 0321 - Mini VDD Date : 3/1/2012 11:58:00 0322 - Mini VDD Size : 13417632 0323 - Device Identifier : {D7B71E3E-5300-11CF-7956-ACA300C2CB35} 0324 - Vendor ID : 0x10DE 0325 - Device ID : 0x1040 0326 - SubSys ID : 0x83A01043 0327 - Revision ID : 0x00A1 0330 - Video Accel : ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D 0331 - Deinterlace Caps : {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 0334 - DDraw Status : Enabled 0335 - D3D Status : Enabled 0336 - AGP Status : Enabled 0337 - Notes : No problems found. To test DirectDraw functionality, click the "Test DirectDraw" button above. To test Direct3D functionality, click the "Test Direct3D" button above. 0338 - OpenGL : 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0845) ---------------------------------- 04 - Memory ---------------------------------- 0401 - Total Memory : 2.00 GB 0402 - Free Memory : 1.28 GB 0403 - Total Pagefile : 3.16 GB 0404 - Free Pagefile : 2.55 GB 0405 - Bank Label : BANK0 0406 - Speed : 800 MHz 0407 - Total Width : 64 Bits 0408 - Capacity : 1.00 GB 0405 - Bank Label : BANK1 0406 - Speed : 800 MHz 0407 - Total Width : 64 Bits 0408 - Capacity : 1.00 GB ---------------------------------- 05 - Network ---------------------------------- 0501 - Description : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport ---------------------------------- 06 - Motherboard ---------------------------------- 0601 - Model : M2N-MX SE 0602 - Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC. ---------------------------------- 07 - Sound Device ---------------------------------- 0701 - Description : Realtek HD Audio output 0702 - Default Sound Playback : True 0703 - Default Voice Playback : True 0704 - Hardware ID : HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_10438290&REV_1001 0705 - Manufacturer ID : 1 0706 - Product ID : 100 0707 - Type : WDM 0708 - Driver Name : RtkHDAud.sys 0709 - Driver Version : 5.10.0000.5377 0710 - Driver attributes : Final Retail 0711 - Date and Size : 3/1/2007 21:27:00 0713 - Driver Provider : Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 0714 - Min/Max Sample Rate : 4642294, 4642294 0715 - Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs : 4642294, 4642294 0716 - Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs : 4642294, 4642294 0717 - HW Memory : 4642302 0718 - Voice Management : False 0719 - EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src : True, True 0720 - I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src : True, True 0721 - Notes : To test DirectSound functionality, click the "Test DirectSound" button above. No problems found. ---------------------------------- 08 - Hard Disk ---------------------------------- 0801 - Model : ST3500320AS(Seagate, 500G) 0802 - Media Type : Fixed hard disk media 0803 - Size : 465.76 GB 0804 - Interface Type : Serial ATA 0801 - Model : WDC WD800AAJS-00PSA0(Western Digital) 0802 - Media Type : Fixed hard disk media 0803 - Size : 74.53 GB 0804 - Interface Type : Serial ATA 0801 - Model : USB Flash Memory USB Device 0802 - Media Type : Removable media other than floppy 0803 - Size : 3.78 GB 0801 - Model : HP External HDD USB Device 0802 - Media Type : Fixed hard disk media 0803 - Size : 930.85 GB 0805 - Driver Date : 7-1-2001 0806 - Driver Version : 5.1.2535.0 0807 - Caption : C:\ 0808 - Capacity : 74.52 GB 0809 - Free Space : 1.79 GB 0810 - Drive Type : 3-Fixed 0811 - File System : NTFS 0807 - Caption : D:\ 0808 - Capacity : 465.75 GB 0809 - Free Space : 383.83 GB 0810 - Drive Type : 3-Fixed 0811 - File System : NTFS 0807 - Caption : I:\ 0808 - Capacity : 930.86 GB 0809 - Free Space : 588.84 GB 0810 - Drive Type : 3-Fixed 0811 - File System : NTFS ---------------------------------- 09 - Process ---------------------------------- 0901 - 000 Idle 0 0 0901 - 004 System 0 0 normal 0901 - 380 smss.exe 0 0 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 3b4 csrss.exe 111 83 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 3d0 winlogon.exe 44 12 high C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 3fc services.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 408 lsass.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 4ac svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 500 PresentationFontCache.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF 0901 - 528 svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 554 svchost.exe 11 33 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - 580 svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 5c0 svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 5f0 svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 65c svchost.exe 7 6 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - 680 brsvc01a.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 694 brss01a.exe 11 4 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 6ac spoolsv.exe 5 7 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 70c svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 768 GuardAgent.exe 4 1 normal C:\Program Files\EaseUS\Todo Backup\bin 0901 - 7a0 svchost.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - 7cc SolutoService.exe 4 13 below normal C:\Program Files\Soluto 0901 - 25c soluto.exe 57 47 normal C:\Program Files\Soluto 0901 - 27c Explorer.EXE 449 416 normal C:\WINDOWS 0901 - 3ac svchost.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 3b8 dllhost.exe 4 5 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 5d4 dmadmin.exe 7 6 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - 8c8 dllhost.exe 4 3 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 9c8 msdtc.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - a58 alg.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - a84 RunDLL32.exe 50 9 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - adc ctfmon.exe 65 30 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - d74 aspnet_state.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727 0901 - df8 PSIService.exe 4 1 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 160 OSPPSVC.EXE 4 2 normal C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OfficeSoftwareProtectionPlatform 0901 - f38 VProConsole.exe 316 152 normal C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost\Console 0901 - e30 VProSvc.exe 5 19 normal C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost\Agent 0901 - fa4 SymSnapService.exe 4 5 normal C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost\Shared\Drivers 0901 - f70 vssvc.exe 4 2 normal C:\WINDOWS\System32 0901 - 818 dllhost.exe 4 4 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32 0901 - 4b4 ASC.exe 1658 287 normal C:\Program Files\IObit\Advanced SystemCare 5 0901 - 828 ASCTray.exe 79 36 normal C:\Program Files\IObit\Advanced SystemCare 5 0901 - cd4 sus10_sysexplorer.exe 109 48 normal C:\Program Files\IObit\Advanced SystemCare 5 0901 - 81c wmiprvse.exe 7 8 normal C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem ---------------------------------- 10 - Service ---------------------------------- 1001 - Application Layer Gateway Service - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe] 1001 - ASP.NET State Service - [C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\aspn et_state.exe] 1001 - Windows Audio - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - BrSplService - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\brsvc01a.exe] 1001 - Computer Browser - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - COM+ System Application - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe /Processid:{02D4B3F1-FD88-11D1-960D-00805FC79235}] 1001 - Cryptographic Services - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - DCOM Server Process Launcher - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch] 1001 - DHCP Client - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\dmadmin.exe /com] 1001 - Logical Disk Manager - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - DNS Client - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService] 1001 - Event Log - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe] 1001 - COM+ Event System - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Fast User Switching Compatibility - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0 - [C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\Presen tationFontCache.exe] 1001 - Guard Agent - [C:\Program Files\EaseUS\Todo Backup\bin\GuardAgent.exe] 1001 - Help and Support - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - HID Input Service - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - HTTP SSL - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k HTTPFilter] 1001 - Server - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Workstation - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService] 1001 - Distributed Transaction Coordinator - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\msdtc.exe] 1001 - Network Connections - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Network Location Awareness (NLA) - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Office Software Protection Platform - ["C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OfficeSoftwareProtectionPlatform\OSPPSVC.EX E"] 1001 - Plug and Play - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe] 1001 - IPSEC Services - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe] 1001 - Protected Storage - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe] 1001 - ProtexisLicensing - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSIService.exe] 1001 - Remote Access Connection Manager - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Routing and Remote Access - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k rpcss] 1001 - Security Accounts Manager - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe] 1001 - Task Scheduler - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Secondary Logon - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - System Event Notification - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Shell Hardware Detection - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Soluto PCGenome Core Service - ["C:\Program Files\Soluto\SolutoService.exe"] 1001 - Print Spooler - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe] 1001 - System Restore Service - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - SSDP Discovery Service - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService] 1001 - Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc] 1001 - MS Software Shadow Copy Provider - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe /Processid:{E8FDB25B-A87F-4435-99C2-76CDC5C20EE7}] 1001 - Symantec SymSnap VSS Provider - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe /Processid:{B3CCFBAF-6271-48D7-A96D-A4658A54F525}] 1001 - SymSnapService - ["C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost\Shared\Drivers\SymSnapService.exe"] 1001 - Telephony - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Terminal Services - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost -k DComLaunch] 1001 - Themes - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Distributed Link Tracking Client - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Volume Shadow Copy - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\vssvc.exe] 1001 - Windows Time - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - WebClient - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService] 1001 - Windows Management Instrumentation - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Security Center - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Automatic Updates - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework - [C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k WudfServiceGroup] 1001 - Wireless Zero Configuration - [C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs] 1001 - Norton Ghost - [C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost\Agent\VProSvc.exe] ---------------------------------- 12 - Event Log ---------------------------------- 1201 - Time : 23/04/2012 7:16:50 a.m. 1202 - Source : DCOM 1203 - Description : DCOM got error "%1058" attempting to start the service Norton Ghost with arguments "" in order to run the server: {F3DC957F-00CA-4D2A-A9AD-03FA855AAE38} 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 4:53:54 p.m. 1202 - Source : DCOM 1203 - Description : DCOM got error "%1058" attempting to start the service Norton Ghost with arguments "" in order to run the server: {F3DC957F-00CA-4D2A-A9AD-03FA855AAE38} 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 4:53:04 p.m. 1202 - Source : Service Control Manager 1203 - Description : The NTPort Library Driver service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 3:27:55 p.m. 1202 - Source : Service Control Manager 1203 - Description : The NTPort Library Driver service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 2:51:49 p.m. 1202 - Source : Disk 1203 - Description : The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 2:36:50 p.m. 1202 - Source : Disk 1203 - Description : The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 1:14:46 p.m. 1202 - Source : Windows Update Agent 1203 - Description : Unable to Connect: Windows is unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore cannot download and install updates according to the set schedule. Windows will continue to try to establish a connection. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 10:05:47 a.m. 1202 - Source : Service Control Manager 1203 - Description : The NTPort Library Driver service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 9:44:30 a.m. 1202 - Source : Service Control Manager 1203 - Description : The NTPort Library Driver service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified. 1201 - Time : 22/04/2012 9:43:43 a.m. 1202 - Source : Disk 1203 - Description : The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block. ---------------------------------- End of file - 20408 Bytes	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1271145	2012-04-23 02:13:00	I've already done a warranty check on Segate's website and the warranty has run out Thats more than likely because the warranty runs from the date of the original drives purchase. Any drive that is replaced under warranty does not start with a new date. So if the original drive was say 35 months old , and the original warranty was for 3 years(36 months), then the replacement drive has only a warranty of 1 month. Sometimes you actually find the drives don't have bad blocks, they may just be reading wrong by what ever you are using to check. Did you actually try Seatools to check the drive ?	wainuitech (129)
1271146	2012-04-23 02:31:00	I am going to try Seatools. Windows said that the drive had a read/write error and could not be accessed. That was yesterday. It's fine at the moment. I need to connect my PC to internet so I can get Microsoft .net framework 4 for it to work. What does a .net framework do? Are Seagate drives known for failures?:illogical I heard of other bad experiences with other Seagate drives:groan:. If I can't fix my current drive I'll move to WD instead. :thumbs:	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1271147	2012-04-23 02:47:00	All brands of hard drive can & do fail. Seagate are a very good drive, WD is really no better in general. I wouldnt waste time with a suspect drive. It can be faulty & still pass every test you throw at it (Ive seen this)	1101 (13337)
1271148	2012-04-23 03:09:00	I am going to try Seatools. Windows said that the drive had a read/write error and could not be accessed. That was yesterday. It's fine at the moment. I need to connect my PC to internet so I can get Microsoft .net framework 4 for it to work. What does a .net framework do? From MS the simple version of explaining .NET is an integral part of many applications running on Windows and provides common functionality for those applications to run. Which basically means people who write programs use .net Framework instead of having to write lines and lines of code. .Net supplies all the necessary functions and is freely available. A bit more indepth (en.wikipedia.org)	wainuitech (129)
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