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Thread ID: 122303	2011-12-14 05:44:00	Getting a job	Metla (12)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1248591	2011-12-14 09:37:00	Good luck, sounds like you're in with a good chance, they tend to stop after the first couple of steps if they aren't interested. I don't really see much value in a lot of assessments though, many of them it's easy to see what the expected or politically correct answer is and mask your true depravity. Some are tricky though, designed with no truly obvious answer.	dugimodo (138)
1248592	2011-12-14 09:43:00	it's easy to see what the expected or politically correct answer is and mask your true depravity. :lol: :lol:	WalOne (4202)
1248593	2011-12-14 17:41:00	So far. A phone interview. 40 minutes. A phone call to schedule the real interview A phone call to prep me for the interview, 20 minutes The interview, Panel of managers, 1 hour Another interview, . 1 hour 15 minute presentation to the site management team Medical 1 hour Site tour 30 minutes Verbal Assessment- approx 17-20 minutes Numeric Assessment- approx 17-20 l Personality Questionnaire-not timed . Oh god. One of those. What I hate about companies like that is you find they are then so hung up on bureaucracy and BS they don't actually accomplish much. A certain job I got at a certain large Aussie corp was like that. Then when the job started - training? What training? Morale among existing staff - zero. I discovered they'd already sacked one team elsewhere because the **** hit the fan, customers complained - no-one knew what they were doing. Our team - we got a 5 minute speech on make sure you speak up if you need more training, I spoke up immediately and was ignored. I moved on and decided they could self-destruct without me.	pctek (84)
1248594	2011-12-14 19:56:00	I just cull out anyone who smokes, has tats, solo parents, jail birds, wearing Bourbon or HD apparel, look at their car and see if it clean inside WOF and rego.	prefect (6291)
1248595	2011-12-14 20:24:00	Best of luck, Metla. I am not sure when it started that hopeful applicants have to run the gambit of the latest system, but if you want the job badly enough you will do it their way, at least at first!! A recent email from a friend in UK told me her her husband went through the job applying system. He thought he had ticked all the boxes, then missed out. Apparently, the person left in charge of sifting through the CV's was a 17 year old girl with no qualifications or no knowledge of aircraft and had been with the secondary company for less than a year. She was under instructions not to read notes from bosses but to look for specific words on the CV.	Marnie (4574)
1248596	2011-12-14 20:59:00	Metla my man ... GO FOR IT !!! Don't mention means of getting rid of dead bodies ... just relax and be yourself during the presentation ... No worries !! Good luck.	SP8's (9836)
1248597	2011-12-14 21:41:00	I just cull out anyone who smokes, has visible tats, solo parents, jail birds, wearing Bourbon or HD apparel, look at their car and see if it clean inside WOF and rego. Fixed that for you Prefect. :)	DeSade (984)
1248598	2011-12-14 22:07:00	I just cull out anyone who ................. I get the impression if you had lived 60 odd years ago, you'd for sure have bveen joining in the culling, loading them on trains and so on. I've never met such an intolerant, nasty person as you.	pctek (84)
1248599	2011-12-14 22:26:00	Don't really think that particular culling is ever appropriate to joke about.	DeSade (984)
1248600	2011-12-14 22:34:00	All the tests that appear to be a requirement for this process are a lazy substitute for a good interview process. The personality test especially - these are typically less than 50% indicative of what the person is really like (due to subjective interpretation of the questions being asked, how much sleep you've had and your mood at the time). Personality tests were created by psychologists (a 'science' where there are no wrong answers) as a tool for lazy HR people to put potential employees into boxes. The problem is (assuming personality tests are accurate, which they are not), if you specify a particular personality type and ONLY hire people like that, it is a recipe for disaster, since everyone will be the same - with all the potential for friction within the team that brings. Progress comes where people have differing views... The best way to establish what someone is like is to talk to them and their colleagues (if possible) and/or their friends (if possible) - but that takes time, and relies on the interviewer asking the right questions and interpreting the answers correctly - a skill which is entirely uncommon in HR departments (and even most recruiters) these days. Thankfully I am no longer in the position of having to sit through those crap tests, but if I was, I would point blank refuse to take a personality test (and explain why). That said, I wish you all the best and reiterate what WalOne says above (post #9).	johcar (6283)
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