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Thread ID: 122457	2011-12-22 00:38:00	5 year old attacked ... WTF is going on in this country	SP8's (9836)	PC World Chat

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1250207	2011-12-30 07:58:00	That is a truly remarkable report. You would get a better quality of hot air from eating beans. You'd have too ask Cato about that - who started this segment theory.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1250208	2011-12-30 08:11:00	Well according to a report Poverty is significantly related to incidence rates in nearly every category of maltreatment. Compared to children whose families earned $30,000 or more, children in families with annual incomes below $15,000 were: More than 22 times more likely to experience maltreatment under the Harm Standard and 25 times more likely under the Endangerment Standard. More than 44 times more likely to be neglected, by either definitional standard. Over 22 times more likely to be seriously injured using either definitional standard. 60 times more likely to die from maltreatment under the Harm Standard. No race differences were found in maltreatment incidence. Care to provide a link? I have found some statistics from the 90s (because I can't find anything recent, someone care to help me??) which suggest there are racial issues involved. The worrying thing is this: While ethnicity data are now available for the past five years, in each of those years Mäori and non-Mäori rates have either both increased or both decreased. While the percentage change has differed, the overall trends are similar and separate targets are not warranted. I am not quite sure what that means, because if the percentages have changed everything would have changed, right? I have a feeling this is PC bullshit. Hospitalisations for injury purposely inflicted by other persons,*ages 0–14 years, 1997 Rate per 100 000 population: Maori: 33.0 Non-Maori: 21.7 www.moh.govt.nz	Cato (6936)
1250209	2011-12-30 08:14:00	Righto, we triple the amount they get on the dole and the problem is solved. No wonder all those kids have been safer in houses where multiple family members are on the benefit.	Metla (12)
1250210	2011-12-30 08:50:00	Well according to a report Poverty is significantly related to incidence rates in nearly every category of maltreatment. Compared to children whose families earned $30,000 or more, children in families with annual incomes below $15,000 were: More than 22 times more likely to experience maltreatment under the Harm Standard and 25 times more likely under the Endangerment Standard. More than 44 times more likely to be neglected, by either definitional standard. Over 22 times more likely to be seriously injured using either definitional standard. 60 times more likely to die from maltreatment under the Harm Standard. No race differences were found in maltreatment incidence. Why not 21 times or 23 times? Why not 43 times or 45 times? What a load of bull ****!! Where do you get this crap from?	Zippity (58)
1250211	2011-12-30 09:00:00	Why not 21 times or 23 times? Why not 43 times or 45 times? What a load of bull ****!! Where do you get this crap from? I would recommend a book by Willard Motley by the name of "knock on any door". Very thought provoking.	mikebartnz (21)
1250212	2011-12-30 09:39:00	If it was my daughter I think that I would hunt him down and kill him by whatever means. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I think I would quite happily spend the next 10 years in prison knowing that piece of **** is dead. I hope he gets the beating he deserves.	radium (8645)
1250213	2011-12-30 10:50:00	Why not 21 times or 23 times? Why not 43 times or 45 times? What a load of bull ****!! Where do you get this crap from? I won't bother explaining how research is done to you given you never do any.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1250214	2011-12-30 11:07:00	Poverty is significantly related to incidence rates in nearly every category of maltreatment. Compared to children whose families earned $30,000 or more, children in families with annual incomes below $15,000 were: If you want to go by that, then what minority group is more likely to be in the "annual income < $15,000" in NZ? This mentions the average hourly wage: www.tpk.govt.nz Or here: www.dol.govt.nz You can also see that 35% of all those receiving a benefit are Maori: www.dol.govt.nz That's 1 in every 3 people on the benefit are Maori, where we live in a multicultural society of European / NZ, Asian, Pacific Islanders, Indian, Maori and more. Yet I believe the Maori population is only somewhere around 1/10th of the NZ total head count. Finally, read here for information on youth disengagement: www.dol.govt.nz So yes, it's not too far-fetched to agree with you that yes, it's quite possibly a Maori offender, especially in the area the offending occurred which isn't exactly known for its wealth, so again your "report" agrees with this speculation. Personally, I'm with Radium. If somebody hurt my wife, or future kids, I'd probably hunt them down and castrate them.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1250215	2011-12-30 18:48:00	Being poor doesn't necessarily make you a violent child molester. Being Maori doesn't necessarily either. I bet the young guy was if not a wannabe Mongrel Mob, at least associated with them. Like the news said, stabbing each other isn't considered unusual, so if you are a bit of a psychopath anyway, then you aren't going to think that's much at all. There are plenty of sick bastards in the world who aren't poor and maori too. John Wayne Gacy comes to mind.... It's just a pity we have such lame crime sentencing in this country, it does nothing to discourage them, and teen punishment are even worse - he'll be back int the news when he's older doing some other vile thing.	pctek (84)
1250216	2011-12-30 19:06:00	I won't bother explaining how research is done to you given you never do any. If you are going to quote research you must give the link and or full references. Otherwise it would seem that you are just making stuff up? Without knowledge of who produced a report, how it was put together, who it was produced for and the methodology used to produce it a report is next to worthless. As anyone knows 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot by the person quoting them.;)	CliveM (6007)
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