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Thread ID: 122552	2011-12-29 19:16:00	Cheetah - Dead.	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1251145	2011-12-29 19:16:00	Doubts Surround the Death of Cheetah, 1930s Tarzan Chimp (PALM HARBOR, Fla . ) — A Florida animal sanctuary says Cheetah, the chimpanzee sidekick in the Tarzan movies of the early 1930s, has died at 80 . But other accounts call that claim into question . Debbie Cobb, outreach director at the Suncoast Primate Sanctuary in Palm Harbor, said Wednesday that her grandparents acquired Cheetah around 1960 from Tarzan star Johnny Weissmuller and that the chimp appeared in Tarzan films between 1932 and 1934 . During that period, Weissmuller made Tarzan the Ape Man and Tarzan and His Mate . But Cobb offered no documentation, saying it was destroyed in a 1995 fire . Read more: . time . com/2011/12/29/doubts-surround-the-death-of-cheetah-1930s-tarzan-chimp/#ixzz1hx7dfRF8" target="_blank">newsfeed . time . com In case you weren't born yet, here's a pix of the actors - Cheetah is in the middle::: . files . wordpress . com/2011/12/cheetahvert . jpg?w=240&h=360&crop=1" target="_blank">timenewsfeed . files . wordpress . com continued: Also, some Hollywood accounts indicate a chimpanzee by the name of Jiggs or Mr . Jiggs played Cheetah alongside Weissmuller early on and died in 1938 . In addition, an 80-year-old chimpanzee would be extraordinarily old, perhaps the oldest ever known . According to many experts and Save the Chimps, another Florida sanctuary, chimpanzees in captivity generally live to between 40 and 60, though Lion Country Safari in Loxahatchee, Fla . , says it has one that is around 73 . A similar claim about another chimpanzee that supposedly played second banana to Weissmuller was debunked in 2008 in a Washington Post story . Read more: . time . com/2011/12/29/doubts-surround-the-death-of-cheetah-1930s-tarzan-chimp/#ixzz1hx8w38ih" target="_blank">newsfeed . time . com Read more: . time . com/2011/12/29/doubts-surround-the-death-of-cheetah-1930s-tarzan-chimp/#ixzz1hx7XVwT7" target="_blank">newsfeed . time . com	SurferJoe46 (51)
1251146	2012-01-01 06:27:00	I've got to admit I had to think three times when I read that. I've got my mother here visiting from the UK and she's 92 so, being kind to her and seeing her at the moment, it's really difficult imagining a chimp being nearly as old as she is!! Personally, I grew up with Lex Barker being Tarzan (In Tarzan's Magic Fountain (en.wikipedia.org) (1949), Barker became the tenth official Tarzan (en.wikipedia.org) of the movies. His blond, handsome, and intelligent appearance, as well as his athletic, now 6'4" frame, helped make him popular in the role Johnny Weissmuller (en.wikipedia.org) had made his own for sixteen years. Barker made only five Tarzan films, but he remains one of the actors best known for the role.) but I didn't realise he'd been around for so long until I'd started backtracking on this. Then, just the other day, I saw a "documentary'" on Michael Jackson and the whole "Bubbles" relationship - at the time the film was made Bubbles was still with us - Latoya was having a "moment alone" with him!! What I've never understood SJ is why youse yanks refer to chimps, orang-outangs (remember Clint, Clyde and the "Which ways"?), gorillas and the other apes as "monkeys". Be that as it may....... Johnny was an Olympic swimmer but how did Mark Spitz (http://www.markspitzusa.com/) get so many medals?	tuiruru (12277)
1251147	2012-01-01 15:02:00	What I've never understood SJ is why youse yanks refer to chimps, orang-outangs (remember Clint, Clyde and the "Which ways"?), gorillas and the other apes as "monkeys" . Be that as it may . . . . . . . Johnny was an Olympic swimmer but how did Mark Spitz get so many medals? I never thought of that - but you're right . 'Monkeys' seems such a generic term, that maybe it's just a throwback to that . Perhaps . Spitz was more politically correct for the time methinks . Remember that the 'New Olympians' are scientifically trained, taught about conservation of energy and more bang for the buck moves . Swimming is a very wasteful sport, energy-wise, and any clinical observations and therefor: modifications to the swimming style were very closely controlled . Weissmuller, Les Barker (had he been an Olympian too?) and others of their day just swam with not much scientific style . They just plowed through the water, obvious to technique as is so taught today . It was as it appeared to be: sheer power and might . Remember the Olympic swimming suit debate a few years ago where some company had created a suit that actually decreased the footprint (if you'll allow that term) for a swimmer in the water by reducing friction and conservation of energy? It all goes to honing the sport, to which I say: unfair . Let the human be the testing bed, not the clothing or lack of it, and certainly take science and it's methods out of the sports too .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1251148	2012-01-01 19:19:00	Spitz was more politically correct for the time methinks. Let the human be the testing bed, not the clothing or lack of it, and certainly take science and it's methods out of the sports too. I can't remember............ - how rigorous was the drug testing regime back in '72? :rolleyes: Happy New Year SJ! :clap	tuiruru (12277)
1251149	2012-01-01 19:45:00	How good a swimmer was the chimp?	R2x1 (4628)
1251150	2012-01-01 20:31:00	How good a swimmer was the chimp? Well, there are a few amusing comments her (uk.answers.yahoo.com)e. And wouldn't it be nice to have the money to indulge in this (www.youtube.com)?	tuiruru (12277)
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