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Thread ID: 122624	2012-01-03 17:38:00	Did She Off Someone?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1251935	2012-01-04 00:52:00	If you want a HEDGE!! Andrew, try a Cornish Hedge (en.wikipedia.org). If you follow the link you'll see a couple of pretty pictures of a Cornish Hedge in summer. Many is the tourist (or "emmet (en.wikipedia.org(Cornish))" I've seen come to grief on them because they thought they were just like the prissy foliage ones "upcountry", rather than solid lumps of granite encasing earth!! I've learned something today. Thanks for that. **Note to self : never jump into a Cornish hedge** I was thinking along these lines: photography.nationalgeographic.com I saw some being made in the south of England. I figured that after years of laying the dead branches in this way, the first few feet of the "hedge" would end up being solid earth - hence the reason they are so tall.	andrew93 (249)
1251936	2012-01-04 03:01:00	The "Right to Roam" rules must be very similar to New Zealand's Queen's chain (www.recreationaccess.org.nz)which gives us access to our seashore, lakes and rivers. We also have access to most Crown lands and reserves. The "Right to Roam" (www.ramblers.org.uk) is, practically speaking, a bit of a fiction. There are public rights of way (en.wikipedia.org), with sub categories such as bridle (as distinct from "bridal") paths/bridleways, footpaths....... but the key point is that the majority of them go over privately owned land. In fact it was (and probably still is) a popular pastme to grab yourself an Ordnance Survey Map (where these "rights of way" are marked) and a pair of bolt/wire cutters and "liberate" routes that "unscrupulous and selfish" farmers had fenced off. And as for having the right to go and sling a hook into a piece of fresh water to catch a bite to eat, forget it. The waterways (and by implication the things that live in them) are "owned" as well. As for "The Queen's Chain"? :rolleyes: Have a look here for a DOC perspective (www.doc.govt.nz)..... The last sentence on the page reads, "To avoid any possible issues with private landowners, it always pays to check if public access is available to your favourite fishing spot and if not to ask the landowners permission." Not quite the "inalienable" right that most people assume it is... Isn't folklore marvellous?? :groan:	tuiruru (12277)
1251937	2012-01-04 03:23:00	That got reported on our TV News last night. The bit that worried me was, "The remains were found on Sunday afternoon by a member of the public" . Wouldn't have thought "public" were just allowed te meander around Royal Estates. As for 20,000 acres - just a small country house and garden hideaway old chap (www.google.co.nz o%3Du&zoom=1&q=sandringham+house&docid=nbiNoW5W7y-QYM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=41gDT6rdFIidiAfe0IXQAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CF0Q9QEwAg&dur=4745) Except it was just outside the estate not on it.	mikebartnz (21)
1251938	2012-01-04 03:24:00	I've learned something today. Thanks for that. **Note to self : never jump into a Cornish hedge** I was thinking along these lines: photography.nationalgeographic.com I saw some being made in the south of England. I figured that after years of laying the dead branches in this way, the first few feet of the "hedge" would end up being solid earth - hence the reason they are so tall. Yeah, to a great extent you're right Andrew. Lot's of the "traditional" hedges are made of natural stuff that, if you were lucky enough,you could dally under with a "bit of stuff" (long, dry, summer evenings permitting ;)). But there have always been issues with the whole concept ("enclosures" - see here (www.ramblers.org.uk))	tuiruru (12277)
1251939	2012-01-04 03:36:00	Except it was just outside the estate not on it. Have you got a link for that Mike.....? It would go so nicely with something I'm doing about "sloppy" reporting.	tuiruru (12277)
1251940	2012-01-04 03:42:00	Is that for a project or work?	andrew93 (249)
1251941	2012-01-04 04:01:00	The news said it was about a mile from the main gate!	Snorkbox (15764)
1251942	2012-01-04 05:04:00	Is that for a project or work? Certainly not work!! Project (long term) I guess. I'm kind of weaving a whole lot of stuff together about how a word missed here or there can change peoples' whole perception of what has actually happened. Is it deliberate, or is it just "sloppy"? I don't have a personal point of view at the moment - I'm just trying to garner examples....	tuiruru (12277)
1251943	2012-01-04 05:05:00	The news said it was about a mile from the main gate! Got a link Snork?	tuiruru (12277)
1251944	2012-01-04 05:23:00	See!! This is what I mean... 3News is just breaking for yet another load of shouty ads, with the statement that "a body has been found ON The Queen's Estate" .....Back on.... "About a mile from the main gate to Sandringham House" "She is probably the victim of murder" (Police spokesman) (about the body, not The Queen (I presume))	tuiruru (12277)
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