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| Thread ID: 122591 | 2012-01-01 13:21:00 | New food bill in New Zealand takes away human right to grow food | Agent_24 (57) | PC World Chat |
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| 1251606 | 2012-01-02 05:34:00 | 3. What is the focus of the Food Bill? The Food Bill focuses on food for sale and profit, not the trade of home-grown food between neighbours or within a community. 6. What are the current rules around bartering or swapping food? The Food Act 1981 currently includes barter in the definition of sale. This definition has not prevented this activity from freely taking place between individual members of the community, that is, those that are not in business. It is the responsibility of the person bartering or swapping food to ensure it will be safe to eat. 7. Does the Food Bill stop neighbours and communities bartering or swapping food? It is an age old kiwi tradition for people to grow food for themselves and swap their excess with friends or neighbours. The Food Bill will not prevent this tradition from continuing. Information on the safe preparation of food, provided as "food handler guidance" tips and advice will be made available, to ensure food is safe to eat. 8. How will fundraising galas and sausage sizzles be treated under the Food Bill? Fundraising activities can continue as they always have. Organisers of these activities will simply be provided with access to 'food handler guidance' tips and advice on how to ensure food sold to others is safe to eat. 9. Will fundraisers or those bartering or swapping food be required to register anywhere? No. Those running fundraising activities or bartering and swapping food are not currently required to register and this will not change under the Food Bill. Yes... The treatment of very small-scale food businesses has emerged as a matter of particular interest in our consideration of the bill. Very small-scale food traders, or “cottage industries” are not distinguished in the bill. It would be difficult to quantify “small-scale” in terms of profit, quantity of product, or number of people involved in the operation, and it is also difficult to define a “cottage” food industry. Doing so could have the effect of inappropriately including or excluding particular food-trading activities. Therefore we do not recommend a generic “cottage industry” provision, and propose instead that any exemption from the requirement to operate under a food control plan or national programme regulations could be made on a case-by-case basis through the exercise of the chief executive’s exemption power under this clause. Other charitable or personal trades are limited to 20 "trades" per calendar year... Monsanto says it all really Sounds like it. |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 1251607 | 2012-01-02 06:04:00 | It's all a rumour started by the second gunman on the grassy knoll, in cahoots with the astronauts who didn't really land on the moon, and the alien spacemen from area 51 at Roswell. For God's sake people, think about it. No government would EVER get away with things as outlined in Agent 24's post. Conspiracy scares like this have been around for donkey's years. | Richard (739) | ||
| 1251608 | 2012-01-02 06:11:00 | What a load of crap this is... No, no. The crap is only involved in the pre-food growing stage, and then again after the food consumption stage. It is not actually food at these stages - it is only food at the post-crap and pre-crap stages. The legislation is a different case entirely, but that is the nature of legislation. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1251609 | 2012-01-02 19:52:00 | Don't you know it doesn't affect you if you wear your tin foil hat. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 1251610 | 2012-01-02 21:14:00 | notice they don't post links to the actual legislation. Neither did you acknowledge the source, pctek, in your post #10 Lest you be accused of passing off, here it is: www.foodsafety.govt.nz :) |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1251611 | 2012-01-02 22:14:00 | It's all a rumour started by the second gunman on the grassy knoll, in cahoots with the astronauts who didn't really land on the moon, and the alien spacemen from area 51 at Roswell. For God's sake people, think about it. No government would EVER get away with things as outlined in Agent 24's post. Conspiracy scares like this have been around for donkey's years. We need to be very careful about the laws our govt wants to pass because if we don't put up objections to bad laws we will only have ourselves to blame. You just need to look at the influence the USA had on our copyright bill recently to realise what influence the big USA corporations have. Look at how bad the USA sopa (en.wikipedia.org) bill is and then look at who is pushing it. GoDaddy (news.cnet.com) had a slight change of heart when customers started deserting them because of their stance on it. Wikipedia being one of them. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1251612 | 2012-01-03 06:26:00 | If you use Chrome and want to see what websites support SOPA then you may want to try this Chrome extension and then point it at the MPAA to test it.. chrome.google.com |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1251613 | 2012-01-03 07:12:00 | We have an elderly couple live next door to us . . . (not that I'm any spring chicken myself) . . . but the old guy loves(d) his gardening but can no longer dig and maintain it . I have a garden and the neighbour & I have a great time sitting down the bottom of the garden having a cold one most Saturday afternoons, weather permitting, over the spring / summer months . This man and his wife are a wealth of knowledge and they have helped my wife & I enormously in areas where we lack knowledge like pruning roses etc, how to diagnose diseases and cure them . . . the list goes on . The garden is quite large and it produces far too much for my wife & I alone . . . The neighbours get some, our kids get some (the ones living in town anyway) . . . I shall give what I grow to whomever I like . Having said all that, I think the main issue with the proposed "law" is to stop large scale operations . . . if it isn't, maybe Richard could get in touch with those two guys on the grassy knoll to sort things out . . . . :D |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1251614 | 2012-01-04 20:49:00 | This article ( . stuff . co . nz/national/politics/6215197/MP-calls-for-more-feedback-on-Food-Bill" target="_blank">www . stuff . co . nz) appeared in the Southland Times this morning . A Green MP Steffan Browning has described the Food Bill as a poorly drafted act . Submissions closed in September 2010 but it is yet to go for it's second reading . Submissions received from members of the public have caused the committee to consider some implications contained in the bill . "There will definitely be changes to the bill from its first reading as some shortcomings were not picked up in the select committee process or at the first reading . " |
Bobh (5192) | ||
| 1251615 | 2012-01-04 21:23:00 | The garden is quite large and it produces far too much for my wife & I alone ... The neighbours get some, our kids get some (the ones living in town anyway) ... I shall give what I grow to whomever I like. Yeah, so? The law does not have any restrictions on home gardeners doing this. Geez. Read the bill, not the looney brigades rantings. |
pctek (84) | ||
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