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Thread ID: 124673	2012-05-12 03:02:00	Why I still don't like Linux	Tony (4941)	Press F1

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1274910	2012-05-16 20:50:00	Well of course it is opinion. It is the opinion of someone who is interested in trying out something new, and how difficult/easy it is to get into it. The problem is that there's always going to be at least a small learning curve, regardless of if you actually want to acknowledge it or not, because Linux is not a Windows clone. There's little point in "trying it out" when you give up on a particular Distro at the first sign of things not going right, especially considering you already have a "not basic" hdd setup and expect it to magically slot in alongside everything you have currently when there is no unpartitioned space for it to do-so. Granted you downloaded more than one, I commend you for that, but ultimately that just means you had some bandwidth to burn. I think if you were legitimately interested, considering your HDD layout shows you're anything but new to computers, you might have done something in preparation for it. In the case of Windows it can install on pre formatted NTFS space. Linux won't. Why not delete that NTFS partition on your spare drive and then try again? I know that Mint certainly jumps on unpartitioned space so shouldn't give you any troubles. Also, given your multiple OS layout it may not detect everything, though it usually does a bloody good job, you may want to be sure you have your restore discs handy for windows so you can reinstall the bootloader afterwards. That, or just run Mint from the CD, its what the LiveCD was made for after all! ;-)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1274911	2012-05-16 20:54:00	Maybe this - http://biebian.sourceforge.net/ ? :) The picture at the bottom should read "start being gay", not "stop being gay". :p	pcuser42 (130)
1274912	2012-05-16 21:55:00	I'm quite prepared to have to do work to get to grips with a new concept. My gripe running through this thread has not been that Linux should behave just like Windows, but that the whole setup process could be made easier if the approach and language was better. My example of the messages associated with the initial partitioning is typical - instead of saying something like "Where do you want to install the OS" it uses terms that will be familiar to a Linux person, but mean nothing to someone new. You say ...and expect it to magically slot in alongside everything you have currently when there is no unpartitioned space for it to do-so.That is not the case. What I expect are plain English messages that tell me what I need to know. Now I understand what the required process is, I'll have a go at installing it fully. Good point about possibly needing to restore the bootloader. If I need to do that, where do I find it? (See, I'm a bit of a Windows neophyte as well. :)).	Tony (4941)
1274913	2012-05-16 22:24:00	IIRC you just have to boot into the recovery console in Windows and run: fixboot /mbr Or something to that effect :)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1274914	2012-05-17 03:37:00	Big ups to PCLinuxOS. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: The live CD recognised all my drives, and the network, and was totally painless. So I decided to properly install it, and it provided a clear understandable process, together with an associated help file that walked through it with screenshots and plain English explanations. That is what I have been talking about! I'm still exploring, but so far it is looking really good. I do have a problem with GRUB and multi-booting, but I'll start a new thread about that.	Tony (4941)
1274915	2012-05-17 04:17:00	Good stuff :)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1274916	2012-05-17 04:49:00	We may well make a Linux geek of you yet! :lol:	Agent_24 (57)
1274917	2012-05-17 04:54:00	We may well make a Linux geek of you yet! :lol:Aaargh! Not that, anything but that! :horrified:	Tony (4941)
1274918	2012-05-17 07:18:00	Big ups to PCLinuxOS. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: The live CD recognised all my drives, and the network, and was totally painless. So I decided to properly install it, and it provided a clear understandable process, together with an associated help file that walked through it with screenshots and plain English explanations. That is what I have been talking about! I'm still exploring, but so far it is looking really good. I do have a problem with GRUB and multi-booting, but I'll start a new thread about that. Good show.:thumbs::thumbs:	mikebartnz (21)
1274919	2012-06-04 16:57:00	Big ups to PCLinuxOS . :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: The live CD recognised all my drives, and the network, and was totally painless . So I decided to properly install it, and it provided a clear understandable process, together with an associated help file that walked through it with screenshots and plain English explanations . That is what I have been talking about! Good to see . Personally I could never see the fascination with Debian based distributions, the RPM based ones always seemed to be more user friendly . PCLinuxOS, Mandrake/Mandriva (PCLinuxOS was based on), OpenSuSE all have really good GUI admin programmes . I use OpenSuSE and the main reason is because just as you say, it just works and the bit that just works is YAST(Yet Another Setup Tool) . Never have to go near a commandline, offers the perfect partition setup at install every time, doesn't require you to have indepth knowledge of Linux Applications if you don't want to, just offers "groups" that are self explanatory, but at the same time gives you huge choice straight from the DVD including desktop environments and the double sided DVD comes with 64 bit one side and 32 the other . I gave up windows around 2001 or 2, can't remember . Mandrake 8 . 0 . Brilliant . The only thing I really needed to get my head around (and I'm not a CompSci type just a desktop user) was the partitioning setup . The idea that your OS could go completely tits up but leave your valuable files isolated from any problems was huge . I have Win 7, XP and Win2K machines running on Virtual Box virtual machines inside my OpenSUSE install, I need then for doing telephone support and training stuff, however I'd never use any of them because they are so limiting . I made a small effort in terms of learning to use OpenSuSE and the pay back has been huge over the years, even if you just reduce it to dollars . Time saving HUGE, first install installs everything I need, drivers, Office software, Graphic software and all the rest in half an hour or so with about 1 to 2 minutes of input from me . I don't have to download scads third party software to get my hardware working, or install office software or graphics or multimedia or accounting, it all gets done at install . Such a breeze . So yea small effort, but less than the effort it took to go from DOS to W95 and 95 to XP and certainly vastly cheaper I'm still exploring, but so far it is looking really good . I do have a problem with GRUB and multi-booting, but I'll start a new thread about that . Good to hear it's working well, If you want to give OpenSuSE 12 . 1 a go, I just had a box of DVDs arrive from Germany, if you, or anyone for that matter wants one, PM me with an address and I'll post one off . Cheers GL	Yorick (8120)
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