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| Thread ID: 124673 | 2012-05-12 03:02:00 | Why I still don't like Linux | Tony (4941) | Press F1 |
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| 1274890 | 2012-05-16 03:01:00 | I should say, and I recognise that this may complicate matters, that I have 4 physical disks, 3 SATA each with several partitions, and 1 IDE. I have Win7 and Win8 on one SATA disk, and Vista on another SATA dsk. The IDE disk is empty, one partition, formatted NTFS. but it is still not something for a beginner to attempt Clearly not a beginner if you have all of the above... Just saying ;) That's fine, clearly it's not for everybody and you apparently want something that's going to know what your advanced setup is like without asking you any questions. Linux isn't for you. I'm not even sure how Windows is either, but whatever floats your boat ... |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1274891 | 2012-05-16 03:09:00 | Clearly not a beginner if you have all of the above... Just saying ;)A beginner in Linux terms. I was referring back to an earlier post that talked about me being a neophyte. I'm quite happy to get asked the questions, but they have to be meaningful i.e. non-cryptic, and provide backup explanations for newbies. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1274892 | 2012-05-16 03:20:00 | Update - I went to the puppy website and gave up after seeing the multitude of versions, options, instructions etc. Nowhere could I find an obvious link to a preferred puppy iso image. Once again it isn't Windows. It took me about two seconds to find the link. Puppy Linux originally started out as it's own distribution but has recently merged with the Slackware tree. This site (futurist.se) has a Linux distribution timeline graph some might find interesting. Red Hat and Debian appear to be the most popular trees. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1274893 | 2012-05-16 03:51:00 | This site (futurist.se) has a Linux distribution timeline graph some might find interesting. Red Hat and Debian appear to be the most popular trees.That timeline is amazing. I think it shows both the strength and weakness of Linux. The strength being that you can probably find exactly the flavour you need if you are prepared to do the research (or create your own!) The weakness is the enormity of the task of finding something useful if you are just starting out and the risk of being put off by it. Once again it isn't Windows. It took me about two seconds to find the link.I found it too. My point was that there was a confusing range of options for a first time visitor. A lot of my professional IT life was devoted to making things clear and easy to understand. I think that is where Linux tends to fall down, although with some distros it is much better than it was. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1274894 | 2012-05-16 04:46:00 | I choose the empty IDE disk. I get the message "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu". Isn't NTFS a file system? There is no "partitioning menu", or at least nothing labelled as such. The nearest thing says "create". Is this it? (Only rhetorical - I'm not going any further.) There is no help button that might give me more guidance. Yes, NTFS is a file system but what they are talking about is something a bit different. When they say "No root file system is defined" it basically just means you haven't selected anywhere to put the OS. (As well as choosing the drive and partition you want, you also have to tell it to use that chosen partition as / (root), at the very least) And yes, the create button is what you want to click to set the drive up for an install of Linux. In the manual partition editor (Choose the "something else" option when you get to the drives\partitions setup if you want manual) you need to chose your parition, which filesystem you want, and then tell it to use that filesystem as / Note that if you manually partition, you should also add a swap partition at the end of the drive for your 'pagefile'. It will not automatically do this for you if you are using the manual partition editor. If you have enough RAM of course, you can probably get away without one. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1274895 | 2012-05-16 04:54:00 | I sort of guessed that. Once again, it illustrates (in my view) the problem with Linux for newbies. Why couldn't it say what you've just said, either as a prelude to that whole dialog, or instead of the message I got? | Tony (4941) | ||
| 1274896 | 2012-05-16 04:57:00 | That timeline is amazing. I think it shows both the strength and weakness of Linux. The strength being that you can probably find exactly the flavour you need if you are prepared to do the research (or create your own!) The weakness is the enormity of the task of finding something useful if you are just starting out and the risk of being put off by it. I found it too. My point was that there was a confusing range of options for a first time visitor. A lot of my professional IT life was devoted to making things clear and easy to understand. I think that is where Linux tends to fall down, although with some distros it is much better than it was. I agree they could have made it a lot easier for a first timer. Have a look here (http://www.pclinuxos.com/) and see how you find it. I have tried a few since about 1998 but keep coming back to the Red Hat tree and have settled on PCLinuxOS. One of the reasons I like it is that it is a rolling release , so if you are doing all the upgrades then you always have the latest without a full reinstall although I would imagine that when the 64bit version is finished it will require one. It is also very stable which was one of the things the guy that started it wanted to do. I tried and Indian distro once which showed great potential until they went commercial |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1274897 | 2012-05-16 05:05:00 | Now that website is much better. One place where it says "Get PCLinuxOS", and clear information about each of the versions. I might even give it a go! | Tony (4941) | ||
| 1274898 | 2012-05-16 05:34:00 | puppylinux.org Hmm only 2 versions here Tony, one based on Slackware, the other on Ubuntu. Doesn't confuse me....but.... |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1274899 | 2012-05-16 05:42:00 | puppylinux.org Hmm only 2 versions here Tony, one based on Slackware, the other on Ubuntu. Doesn't confuse me....but....Yeah, that's where I got to eventually, but the home page was a mess. Also nothing to indicate what the difference is and why I should choose one over the other. Compare the PCLinuxOS page here. (http://www.pclinuxos.com/) |
Tony (4941) | ||
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