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Thread ID: 124673 2012-05-12 03:02:00 Why I still don't like Linux Tony (4941) Press F1
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1274860 2012-05-14 08:27:00 Yeah, thought I'd get a bite, this is all opinion, so should really be in chat, as someone else has pointed out. A neophyte is simply someone new, any experience you may, or may not have with Windows, has little or no bearing in this discussion really, but, OH WELL, never mind, as they say.Mmm... defensive - and patronising! Tony (4941)
1274861 2012-05-14 08:31:00 Until my sister can get a Linux disk, boot off it, enter a few parms and then go away until it is installed, it is not for her.

Which is exactly what you can do if you have a single hard drive in the machine and no other operating system already.

Multi-boot scenarios with any OS make installation more ... interesting.

That's why I suggest simply unplugging the other drives during install so they aren't in the picture and causing an issue. (You shouldn't actually have to do this, but it guarantees nothing strange will happen to them)
Agent_24 (57)
1274862 2012-05-14 08:33:00 Which is exactly what you can do if you have a single hard drive in the machine and no other operating system already.

Multi-boot scenarios with any OS make installation more ... interesting.

That's why I suggest simply unplugging the other drives during install so they aren't in the picture and causing an issue.Well, a couple of people have said that here, but my experience with installing multi-boot windows versions has been trouble-free.
Tony (4941)
1274863 2012-05-14 08:46:00 Sorry, Tony.
I got upset, no reason really.
You are entitled to your opinion.
I am thankful that Linux exists, not everyone cares.

All the best
KarameaDave (15222)
1274864 2012-05-14 08:51:00 Well, a couple of people have said that here, but my experience with installing multi-boot windows versions has been trouble-free.

It usually is trouble free - and so it is on Linux too. But in some cases, you just get problems.

For example: last time I installed Windows 7, it installed fine, but decided to put 100MB of boot support files onto my 1TB storage drive even though I was installing it onto a completely different, 250GB hard drive.

I couldn't do anything with the boot folder, eventually reformatted the 250GB, used Linux to delete the boot folder from the 1TB, then unplugged all but the 250GB, installed Windows 7 again, and all was correct, and the boot folder was in the 250GB drive because it had nowhere else to go.

I would be perfectly happy if Windows had had an option to choose where to stick that folder, but it obviously tried to be 'clever' and just annoyed me instead.


That's a rather simple issue however, and if you didn't even care where that folder was it would be a non-issue. But if you want to easily give yourself headaches, try to dual-boot with 2 different versions of Windows on the same drive and install the older one 2nd.

Say, install Windows 7 and then XP.

XP will overwrite the bootloader with its own one, because it doesn't know what Windows 7 is. Then you have to bugger around putting the Windows 7 bootloader back and getting XP added into it.
Agent_24 (57)
1274865 2012-05-14 09:19:00 Then you have to bugger around putting the Windows 7 bootloader back and getting XP added into it.

Pretty simple in EasyBCD...
pcuser42 (130)
1274866 2012-05-14 09:24:00 Pretty simple in EasyBCD...

Yes, but you still have to do it. My point is that multi-booting Windows isn't all rainbows and sunshine.

Tony is probably lucky if his multi-boot Windows installations have been trouble-free - I'm just saying there are many ways to give yourself a multi-boot headache without going anywhere near Linux.
Agent_24 (57)
1274867 2012-05-14 09:41:00 It really is about what you are used to. I have been using Linux on the desktop since 1998 and have to say when I use MS Windows 7 at work there are things I really miss - such as multiple desktops, mouse over takes focus of the window, F3 to divide a file manager screen into two so you don't need to start another instance, ....... Some of these things are fixed by third party software but not all.
Like you there are so many little things like the ones you mention that makes Windows feel crippled to me.
mikebartnz (21)
1274868 2012-05-14 09:47:00 So defensive! I assume the post was aimed at me. I would point out that while I am not at all a Linux expert, I have tried it off and on for many years, with different distros, and have yet to find one that doesn't require a lot of stuffing around.
I've had a very good run with PCLinuxOS. Installing and using and really only ever had one problem and that was with one version installing from a USB stick. The installation went well but for some reason the upgrade stuffed up. I've found the effort of learning a new OS definitely worth it.
mikebartnz (21)
1274869 2012-05-14 09:50:00 We do have Open Office on XP and it opens various files but the layout is different, the font is different. Occasionally a shaded box was missing or the box was a line underneath. We have printed the "unaltered" .docx file off both software (Office 2010 and Open Office).
I would recommend upgrading OpenOffice to the latest LibreOffice.
mikebartnz (21)
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