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Thread ID: 122793	2012-01-13 01:31:00	Mother of Turangi attack accused hounded	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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1253876	2012-01-14 20:47:00	Let's face it - your belief isn't based on evidence and never will be - so little point in presenting it to you. It must get very lonely for you being the only person in the country that knows everything and is always right.	CliveM (6007)
1253877	2012-01-15 00:44:00	I see over at MB2 they arent so diplomatic about what the rapists deserves.	prefect (6291)
1253878	2012-01-15 01:58:00	I see over at MB2 they arent so diplomatic about what the rapists deserves. I agree, the rapists deserve a lot more than they will likely get, however, what their mothers deserve is a bit harder to determine from here.	fred_fish (15241)
1253879	2012-01-15 03:40:00	That judge needs to be removed immediately and fired in disgrace, Nothing else is acceptable. That aside, 2 month old child beaten to death in Wanganui today. Hinekawa Topia, aged 2 months, one of triplets, was driven to Wanganui Hospital by her parents just before 1pm on Thursday as she was not breathing. A post-mortem examination had revealed she suffered a head injury considered non-accidental, police said today. Hinekawa's twin sisters were in hospital for assessment as a precaution and, along with a 5-year-old boy, had been placed in the interim custody of Child Youth and Family. I wonder if they were dressed smartly....	Metla (12)
1253880	2012-01-15 04:10:00	This is worth a read. Michael Laws doesn't pull any punches, and manages to address the big picture: Cases-made-it-a-week-for-the-ferals (www.stuff.co.nz) In a nutshell. :angry	WalOne (4202)
1253881	2012-01-15 05:21:00	This is worth a read. Michael Laws doesn't pull any punches, and manages to address the big picture: Cases-made-it-a-week-for-the-ferals (www.stuff.co.nz) In a nutshell. :angry That is the elephant in the room that the enablers deny as racism. I've seen it in practice many times over. Maori need better role models, I've said it before, I'll say it again, Their leaders, all over the country need to stand up, accept that the problem is real and to condemn those that allow it to happen. Ask Turia how often she has a friendly chat to known gang members, or how many of them are entrenched in her community/family.	Metla (12)
1253882	2012-01-15 07:12:00	That is the elephant in the room that the enablers deny as racism. I've seen it in practice many times over. Maori need better role models, I've said it before, I'll say it again, Their leaders, all over the country need to stand up, accept that the problem is real and to condemn those that allow it to happen. Ask Turia how often she has a friendly chat to known gang members, or how many of them are entrenched in her community/family. So your argument has now been watered down to Maori leaders being responsible, bit of a back track there. Leaders of the whole community need to consider how to address issues of abuse, including Maori leaders. And just for the record - nobody has claimed that discussing the high representation of Maori in crime statistics is racist, that bit you just made that up. As previously stated - it is not some big secret that Maori are over represented in crime stats - certainly isn't an elephant in the room as you suggest. My contention in fact was that people are personally responsible for their crimes - you can't blame a race of people for the crimes of an individual.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1253883	2012-01-15 07:13:00	It must get very lonely for you being the only person in the country that knows everything and is always right. Yeah sure beats being the only person in the country that knows nothing and is always wrong.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1253884	2012-01-15 07:27:00	Yeah sure beats being the only person in the country that knows nothing and is always wrong. Smart arse :)	CliveM (6007)
1253885	2012-01-15 08:16:00	So your argument has now been watered down to Maori leaders being responsible, Nope, not at all, though I understand your delusion blinds you and affects your comprehension. Even if your claims about your position are lies I am glad you don't currently hold such a position. So at least there is that positive.	Metla (12)
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