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Thread ID: 122906 2012-01-19 20:48:00 Megaupload gone nedkelly (9059) PC World Chat
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1255140 2012-01-21 04:03:00 Libraries buy the book in the first place.

That's right, but they only buy one and so the author is only paid once, but it is lent for free many times. The author misses out. It is the same with CDs and DVDs that they lend. As I said, it is similar to piracy, but it's respectable. 		Roscoe (6288)
1255141 2012-01-21 04:12:00 The thing with most theives / burglars is that they are stealing stuff to sell for money not because they can't afford that stuff. CYaBro (73)
1255142 2012-01-21 04:14:00 It seems to me that libraries all over the world do something similar to megaupload and many others. They buy books and then lend them - usually no charge apart from the joining fee - to many people. Is that not similar to piracy?

I have often seen a book I would like to read and so have checked with the library to see if they have a copy. Most times they have. I borrow the book from the library and I do not pay the author and neither does the library. Sounds very much the same as online piracy to me. And as you know, libraries also lend CDs and DVDs, and they charge for those. So why aren't they taking libraries to court?

Not at all similar, There is a difference between gettng to look at something that belongs to someone else, and getting a 1-to-1 copy of it to take home just based on a title, to keep for ever, and to make unlimited 1-to-1 copies.

For it to be similar the library would need a printing press, so would you, and everyone else who wanted a copy to carry on destribution. They would have to be able to create the copy in a couple of minutes and be suported by a world wide destribution network that also takes a couple of minutes at worst.


Now, the 2600 ebooks I saw to download the other day, thats piracy.

oh yes.


sweet sweet piratical ebooks. 		Metla (12)
1255143 2012-01-21 05:08:00 Had me a bit excited with a new music link but I can't even find a genre on there worth listening to let alone a song!
:lol:

Ah, well, each to his own.
The point is, they offer downloads of single tracks or whole albums in your format of choice.

No DRM, no crippled-quality (of format anyway - musical tastes may vary :) ) and try before you buy.

And the artists get the bulk of the payment directly. 		fred_fish (15241)
1255144 2012-01-21 05:40:00 Don't forget they don't force you to install iTunes. Agent_24 (57)
1255145 2012-01-21 05:58:00 Had me a bit excited with a new music link but I can't even find a genre on there worth listening to let alone a song!
I suppose my point is, if whatever you listen to could be got like that (maybe it can), would you use it?
And would knowing the cash went directly to the artist make it more appealing than either getting it free or buying a new corporate jet for EMI? 		fred_fish (15241)
1255146 2012-01-21 07:11:00 The ultimate thing would be an online store that sold music like this:

1) High quality files, with no distinction between say FLAC and MP3 for prices. When you pay for a song you get the highest quality by default which you can recode to any other format you want if you need to for putting on a portable player etc.

2) You can re-download at any time, in any format, all music already paid for, in the event you lose anything due to hard drive failure etc. (Hopefully that would be feasible)

3) No DRM, and preferably open source formats where possible and convenient.

4) No software installation required, like iTunes.

5) Sells ALL music, including the stuff you actually want, not just random dance music - several places fit the bill of the first 4 points pretty well, but unfortunately not point 5 :(


This I would personally love for one-off songs and things. However I still like to purchase full phsyical CDs depending on the artist. 		Agent_24 (57)
1255147 2012-01-21 07:34:00 a 96kbps mp3 is unlistenable,

This may be the case if you paid for it, but to try it, it is more than sufficient.


and there is no way i'd buy a good album if it sounded bad.

Bullshit. You have posted, time and again, music from 50s and 60s that by modern standards have atrocious quality. So, I take it you wouldn't buy that? 		Cato (6936)
1255148 2012-01-21 09:05:00 The ultimate thing would be an online store that sold music like this:

1) High quality files, with no distinction between say FLAC and MP3 for prices. When you pay for a song you get the highest quality by default which you can recode to any other format you want if you need to for putting on a portable player etc.

2) You can re-download at any time, in any format, all music already paid for, in the event you lose anything due to hard drive failure etc. (Hopefully that would be feasible)

3) No DRM, and preferably open source formats where possible and convenient.

4) No software installation required, like iTunes.

5) Sells ALL music, including the stuff you actually want, not just random dance music - several places fit the bill of the first 4 points pretty well, but unfortunately not point 5 :(


This I would personally love for one-off songs and things. However I still like to purchase full phsyical CDs depending on the artist.Digirama (http://www.digirama.co.nz/) doesn't do to bad, #5 just depends on a persons taste of music. # 2 -- sure can in the same format as per original - you simply log in, and redownload.
#4 no additional software required. 		wainuitech (129)
1255149 2012-01-21 09:41:00 The ultimate thing would be an online store that sold music like this:

1) High quality files, with no distinction between say FLAC and MP3 for prices . When you pay for a song you get the highest quality by default which you can recode to any other format you want if you need to for putting on a portable player etc .

2) You can re-download at any time, in any format, all music already paid for, in the event you lose anything due to hard drive failure etc . (Hopefully that would be feasible)

3) No DRM, and preferably open source formats where possible and convenient .

4) No software installation required, like iTunes .

5) Sells ALL music, including the stuff you actually want



Thats cool, sounds like the music store of the very near future .

So what happens when I copy tracks which I've paid for, and pass them on to friends for nothing? And maybe put them up on my webpage for others to copy for free purely to spread the enjoyment of particular artists . And I do the same for movies which I have paid for and give away copies . How does the artist put food on the table from that? 		Winston001 (3612)
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