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Thread ID: 123164	2012-02-08 02:26:00	Maori Water - long gone!	mzee (3324)	PC World Chat

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1257998	2012-02-08 20:54:00	Isn't it nice to be able to have opinions. ... and be able (and allowed) to express them freely....	johcar (6283)
1257999	2012-02-09 10:34:00	About had a gutsfull of these people. Your list of who you do like might be shorter.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1258000	2012-02-09 10:38:00	About had a gutsfull of these people. "People" ? ? ? ?	R2x1 (4628)
1258001	2012-02-09 19:36:00	"People" ? ? ? ? I'm guessing Prefect doesn't automaically count all Maoris as those 'people', just the ones that are constantly making demands. Maybe it's an image problem, I'm fairly new to NZ - 7 years and had a perfectly neutral opinion of Maoris, you know, go to Rotorua and take a photo of them all dancing and sticking out their tongues and what have you. Had no preconceptions but since being here, with few (honestly - very few) exceptions, everything I've seen kind of makes Maoris look like a bunch of people that just want stuff endlessly and not much use at anything else. It's not the White media trying to make them look bad, I've seen Te Karare (sp ? ) and just about every headline was to do with Iwi making claims or wanting compensation for this, that and the other. Last month on the Maori channel there was a news item praising a little kid of about 5 who noticed a fire in his house and alerted the family. He noticed it because even though it was 1:30am he was up watching TV in the lounge. I have family here, an 18 year old cousin who's doing well at Uni but can't get a scholarship because she's not Maori - that's just wrong. Even on my trip to WINZ between jobs, I seemed to not only be the only White, but the only one who wasn't sacked, the only one who didn't have a suspended license or a criminal conviction. Add that to the fact that they're trying to push Maori language, amongst the most useless things in the world to spend precious learning hours on, as compulsory and it doesn't look good. Maybe I'm sounding racist but I think it's time they stopped wanting and started deserving. Or maybe even one day, start giving.	Contented (15925)
1258002	2012-02-09 20:03:00	I'm guessing Prefect doesn't automaically count all Maoris as those 'people', just the ones that are constantly making demands. Maybe it's an image problem, I'm fairly new to NZ - 7 years and had a perfectly neutral opinion of Maoris, you know, go to Rotorua and take a photo of them all dancing and sticking out their tongues and what have you. Had no preconceptions but since being here, with few (honestly - very few) exceptions, everything I've seen kind of makes Maoris look like a bunch of people that just want stuff endlessly and not much use at anything else. It's not the White media trying to make them look bad, I've seen Te Karare (sp?) and just about every headline was to do with Iwi making claims or wanting compensation for this, that and the other. Last month on the Maori channel there was a news item praising a little kid of about 5 who noticed a fire in his house and alerted the family. He noticed it because even though it was 1:30am he was up watching TV in the lounge. I have family here, an 18 year old cousin who's doing well at Uni but can't get a scholarship because she's not Maori - that's just wrong. Even on my trip to WINZ between jobs, I seemed to not only be the only White, but the only one who wasn't sacked, the only one who didn't have a suspended license or a criminal conviction. Add that to the fact that they're trying to push Maori language, amongst the most useless things in the world to spend precious learning hours on, as compulsory and it doesn't look good. Maybe I'm sounding racist but I think it's time they stopped wanting and started deserving. Or maybe even one day, start giving. Sounds a fair comment to me.	Cicero (40)
1258003	2012-02-09 20:09:00	I'm guessing Prefect doesn't automaically count all Maoris as those 'people', just the ones that are constantly making demands. Maybe it's an image problem, I'm fairly new to NZ - 7 years and had a perfectly neutral opinion of Maoris, you know, go to Rotorua and take a photo of them all dancing and sticking out their tongues and what have you. Had no preconceptions but since being here, with few (honestly - very few) exceptions, everything I've seen kind of makes Maoris look like a bunch of people that just want stuff endlessly and not much use at anything else. It's not the White media trying to make them look bad, I've seen Te Karare (sp?) and just about every headline was to do with Iwi making claims or wanting compensation for this, that and the other. Last month on the Maori channel there was a news item praising a little kid of about 5 who noticed a fire in his house and alerted the family. He noticed it because even though it was 1:30am he was up watching TV in the lounge. I have family here, an 18 year old cousin who's doing well at Uni but can't get a scholarship because she's not Maori - that's just wrong. Even on my trip to WINZ between jobs, I seemed to not only be the only White, but the only one who wasn't sacked, the only one who didn't have a suspended license or a criminal conviction. Add that to the fact that they're trying to push Maori language, amongst the most useless things in the world to spend precious learning hours on, as compulsory and it doesn't look good. Maybe I'm sounding racist but I think it's time they stopped wanting and started deserving. Or maybe even one day, start giving. This seems right on target to me, only the PC brigade will never admit it.	DeSade (984)
1258004	2012-02-09 20:58:00	^ ^ ^ +1	Gobe1 (6290)
1258005	2012-02-09 21:16:00	I'm guessing Prefect doesn't automaically count all Maoris as those 'people', just the ones that are constantly making demands. Maybe it's an image problem, I'm fairly new to NZ - 7 years and had a perfectly neutral opinion of Maoris, you know, go to Rotorua and take a photo of them all dancing and sticking out their tongues and what have you. Had no preconceptions but since being here, with few (honestly - very few) exceptions, everything I've seen kind of makes Maoris look like a bunch of people that just want stuff endlessly and not much use at anything else. It's not the White media trying to make them look bad, I've seen Te Karare (sp?) and just about every headline was to do with Iwi making claims or wanting compensation for this, that and the other. Last month on the Maori channel there was a news item praising a little kid of about 5 who noticed a fire in his house and alerted the family. He noticed it because even though it was 1:30am he was up watching TV in the lounge. I have family here, an 18 year old cousin who's doing well at Uni but can't get a scholarship because she's not Maori - that's just wrong. Even on my trip to WINZ between jobs, I seemed to not only be the only White, but the only one who wasn't sacked, the only one who didn't have a suspended license or a criminal conviction. Add that to the fact that they're trying to push Maori language, amongst the most useless things in the world to spend precious learning hours on, as compulsory and it doesn't look good. Maybe I'm sounding racist but I think it's time they stopped wanting and started deserving. Or maybe even one day, start giving. Nice to see we're importing sensible people...	johcar (6283)
1258006	2012-02-09 21:40:00	And it took seven years for you to figure this out .... :rolleyes:	SP8's (9836)
1258007	2012-02-09 22:23:00	And it took seven years for you to figure this out .... :rolleyes: Nothing wrong with taking a considered approach. Contented obviously is a 'glass-half-full' kind of person....	johcar (6283)
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