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Thread ID: 123301 2012-02-16 11:26:00 Question about ACTA chumscrubber (16416) PC World Chat
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1259531 2012-02-16 11:26:00 Hi everybody,

as you might know from March in spain acta will start its dirty policy. So as you guys in NZ are already facing it could you provide more information about how it works and what kind of limitation we will have? and what will happen if we still manage to download copyrighted materials for free? they will send us straight to the jail or there will be fines first or maybe warnings first?
chumscrubber (16416)
1259532 2012-02-16 23:32:00 The penalties will depend on the local implementation. In NZ there are three written warnings and then you lose Internet. But there's nothing to stop someone signing up under a someone else's name or with a different ISP or using alternative methods for Internet access...

It's a dumb law - unenforceable.
johcar (6283)
1259533 2012-02-16 23:38:00 I thought the loss of internet was reserved as a possible punishment but was not enacted as part of the law at this stage DeSade (984)
1259534 2012-02-16 23:42:00 You may be right. Probably never get that far - that's why it's a dumb law. johcar (6283)
1259535 2012-02-17 00:59:00 In NZ it's 2 warnings, the 3rd one comes with a court date. We can be fined up to I think $15000 or something. It hasn't happened yet as far as I know.
So far the music industry has issued a few infringement notices and that's about it, the movie and TV rights owners haven't used the law as yet that I've heard about.

I've heard several people say they will just keep going until they receive the first infringement notice and worry about it then. You'd have to be pretty stupid to actually get in trouble with this system, 1 infringement - change your methods, 2 infringements - stop altogether. Why would anyone let it get to a 3rd.
Also the copyright holder has to pay a fee to the ISP for each notice so they aren't going to issue them willy nilly.
dugimodo (138)
1259536 2012-02-17 10:51:00 thanks a lot for replies. So i guess there should be tons of possibilities to still have an access to free movies, like changing default port for torrents and so on chumscrubber (16416)
1259537 2012-02-17 13:20:00 I thought the loss of internet was reserved as a possible punishment but was not enacted as part of the law at this stageThat will be interesting. Under the New Zealand Bill of Rights, it is your right to have access to the internet, so taking away your access to the internet is denying you your rights...... so that could make an interesting case (yet to be tested) Iantech (16386)
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