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Thread ID: 123176	2012-02-08 12:25:00	The value of a deterrent.	fred_fish (15241)	PC World Chat

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1258141	2012-02-08 12:25:00	From here - www.stuff.co.nz Rail and Maritime Transport Union South Island organiser John Kerr said Gurney should have received a harsher penalty. ... ''We don't want to beat up Steve Gurney; we don't have any quarrel with him. We just thought there was an opportunity to [provide] a deterrent.'' If the possibility of getting hit by a train does not deter stupidity at rail crossings, how would a harsher sentence help in any fashion? :groan:	fred_fish (15241)
1258142	2012-02-08 19:05:00	It's as simple as this: If train hit car, then car in wrong. Getting away with it here is plain stupid. :mad:	pcuser42 (130)
1258143	2012-02-08 21:31:00	He shouldn't have got diversion because he could have killed someone on the train. Potentially what he did was attempted murder, he should have been made an example of. Just a smart arse when he did the crash he didnt even apologize to the driver.	prefect (6291)
1258144	2012-02-08 22:21:00	because he could have killed someone on the train. More likely he would have been killed...	pcuser42 (130)
1258145	2012-02-08 22:41:00	yeah i thought attempted murder was when you try to deliberately kill someone? maybe attempted suicide	Gobe1 (6290)
1258146	2012-02-09 00:23:00	Murder requires intent, more likely a combination of manslaughter and suicide. I think Fred's first OP comment summed up the situation fairly well, there's no deterrent to stupidity or lack of attention. But then again, why do we insist on punishing people for accidents. If he had deliberately tried to beat the train or was driving in a reckless and dangerous manner perhaps, but if he had a lapse of judgement resulting in the destruction of his car and lucky escape for him and the passengers hasn't he hopefully learnt his lesson? Sure he should pay for any damage to other peoples property, but I see no point in any charges.	dugimodo (138)
1258147	2012-02-10 20:06:00	Saw Steve Gurney speak last year before the train incident. He spoke of his racing career, his near death experience in Borneo and its impact on his view of life, the loss of his house in the Christchurch earthquake and what motivated him to live life to the full and remain positive. The guy is a legend, and I think several people present were inspired that a guy could come through the CHCH earthquake and be so positive about the future, looking forward to further challenges. A few months later I read about the accident and knew he had another challenge to overcome. I have to say I hoped that the outcome would work out well for him albeit it was clear he was at fault. The reaction of some people to the sentence is typical of the sensible sentencing types, sentences will never be long enough for them and we'll never be able to throw enough rocks at people to serve as an adequate sentence. I note Steve Gurney's comments that people were being a bit harsh, from what I can see the guy has remained positive even in the face of an event where he has made a mistake. We need more people in this country like him.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1258148	2012-02-11 10:37:00	Unfortunately Twelvevolts, none of those things are excuses for getting hit by a train.	pcuser42 (130)
1258149	2012-02-11 13:37:00	He shouldn't have got diversion because he could have killed someone on the train. Potentially what he did was attempted murder, he should have been made an example of. Just a smart arse when he did the crash he didnt even apologize to the driver. More likely he would have been killed... www.youtube.com Attempted murder? Pretty bad way to attempt it. Train vs you in your car = you lose, every time.	Agent_24 (57)
1258150	2012-02-11 20:04:00	Saw Steve Gurney speak last year before the train incident. He spoke of his racing career, his near death experience in Borneo and its impact on his view of life, the loss of his house in the Christchurch earthquake and what motivated him to live life to the full and remain positive. The guy is a legend, and I think several people present were inspired that a guy could come through the CHCH earthquake and be so positive about the future, looking forward to further challenges. A few months later I read about the accident and knew he had another challenge to overcome. I have to say I hoped that the outcome would work out well for him albeit it was clear he was at fault. The reaction of some people to the sentence is typical of the sensible sentencing types, sentences will never be long enough for them and we'll never be able to throw enough rocks at people to serve as an adequate sentence. I note Steve Gurney's comments that people were being a bit harsh, from what I can see the guy has remained positive even in the face of an event where he has made a mistake. We need more people in this country like him. + 1 :)	Trev (427)
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