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Thread ID: 125303	2012-06-19 10:19:00	AMD or Nvidia?	Nikit07 (16761)	Press F1

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1282758	2012-06-19 20:59:00	I recently bought a new 560ti card to use for sim racing. Was having stutter problems which seem to be related to drivers. I have just taken it out & replaced it with a used HD5870 until nvidia get the problem sorted out. Graphics are not quite as smooth as the 560ti but at least there is no stutter. Good site below to check out. www.hwcompare.com Also a link to my thread regarding the problem. pressf1.pcworld.co.nz	Driftwood (5551)
1282759	2012-06-19 21:02:00	I am wanting a to buy such a powerful card because after I have upgraded my PC with it, I won't be upgrading it for another 3-4 years and during that time i might start playing really graphics intensive games. After the upgrade I will simply have: 8gb Ram, Intel i7-2600 3.4GHz Quad Core 1TB HD and Nvidia GTX 560 Ti, And I'd be for sorted for playing just about every game! :)	Nikit07 (16761)
1282760	2012-06-19 21:04:00	I recently bought a new 560ti card to use for sim racing. Was having stutter problems which seem to be related to drivers. I have just taken it out & replaced it with a used HD5870 until nvidia get the problem sorted out. Graphics are not quite as smooth as the 560ti but at least there is no stutter. Good site below to check out. www.hwcompare.com Also a link to my thread regarding the problem. pressf1.pcworld.co.nz I know Nvidia has been having some problems with there drivers lately. But they are hard at work trying to fix them. I think I get an update for my current driver every month. Thanks for the links! :)	Nikit07 (16761)
1282761	2012-06-19 21:06:00	I recently bought a new 560ti card to use for sim racing. Was having stutter problems which seem to be related to drivers. I have just taken it out & replaced it with a used HD5870 until nvidia get the problem sorted out. Graphics are not quite as smooth as the 560ti but at least there is no stutter. Good site below to check out. www.hwcompare.com Also a link to my thread regarding the problem. pressf1.pcworld.co.nz The AMD card is also a bit out of my price range :-/	Nikit07 (16761)
1282762	2012-06-19 21:37:00	Given you're looking at the 560Ti, I'm going to guess your budget is around $400. The AMD alternative in your price range would be the 7850. Performance is slightly better than the 560 in quite a few games atm, but not significantly so. My personal preference is still for nVidia.	inphinity (7274)
1282763	2012-06-19 22:02:00	Generally I use the chart on this page www.tomshardware.com to get an Idea of relative performance and then start comparing local prices. If you have the patience reading the whole article would give you some insight into the various cards but ignore the american prices things are quite different here. The 7850 www.computerlounge.co.nz is about the same price as a 560Ti and apparently a bit better, I do have a slight preference for Nvidia cards myself but both make great hardware and I think I'd go for the 7850 at that price point. In any case both are huge upgrades over a 520, just be sure your PSU can handle the load.	dugimodo (138)
1282764	2012-06-20 05:24:00	I am a GPU expert IMO...LOL, have been following GPU releases since my first 3D card (Voodoo 2) way back when......anyway, the way i see it, both NV and ATI\AMD make great hardware, however NV has a better software dev team by a country mile. NV has been the first to release most if not all the features and enhancement that we now have...SLI, complex AA settings, PhyX, 3D, GPU compute etc..... AMD this time round for the 7 series decided to copy NV Fermi with DP compute, however NV went the other way and decided compute was best left for the professional cards, and therefore this generation NV has the more efficient architecture, and AMD has struggled with crossfire for this series and point of fact XF is broken for eyefinity unless you use the release drivers....Yes, that right release drivers for a 6 month old product... Anyway, the 560 Ti is a good card, the 7 series AMD 7850 is a great alternative that will because its this generation have better perf\watt then NV last gen 560 Ti, but both perform around the same and if just using a single card you will be fine. Interesting no one has asked the resolution of your monitor, unless I missed it...that should be the first question, as 1GB GPU memory can get max'd out over 1080 or if using heaps of texture mods.... If it were me, Id take the NV, because of the feature list, however I dont think the 560 Ti is powerful enough to run game & PhyX on the one card..	SolMiester (139)
1282765	2012-06-20 05:56:00	I've owned cards from both camps and been happy with them. It seems more games favour Nvidia but in terms of gaming experience over the years I haven't really got anything negative to say about either. To give you a sample of my cards I went through 6600GT, 7600GT, 8800GTS 320, HD4850, GTX460 x 2 in SLI, GTX580 all have been my main gaming card at the time and all have been awesome. (there are a lot more but these are the main ones without going back too far) The HD4850 stands out as the only ATI card in the bunch and I got it when they were first released, it did have some minor graphical glitches for about 6 weeks until new drivers fixed them. It is actually the card that I had for the longest of any of them and it performed extremely well. It also was hugely cheaper than the Nvidia equivalent on release on forced prices down considerably. My ex flatmate is still gaming on one of these and playing Diablo 3 and Rage pretty well. My observations for both companies is be careful buying just released products, that's when all the issues occur. Once something has been available for 2-3 months they tend to have sorted out the issues.	dugimodo (138)
1282766	2012-06-20 07:59:00	On average the 7850 is 15% faster than the 560ti from memory. Neither of the brands is definitively better. 6xxx series and 5xx (nVidia) were basically identical where as in the 7xxx vs the 6xx cards nVidia has the upper hand as they released there cards later, however the 7850 is apparently a phenomenal overclocker up to 7950 territory (I a sapphire one, haven't gone passed 1050 on the core as I haven't messed with the voltages...yet). I owned a 460 GTX (inb4 Chaz asking how much I sold it for, $150) which I was quite happy with. If you could get a second hand 6950, you could unlock the cores (not worth it imo) and overclock up to 6970 level, giving you effectively half of a 6990. Personally though in the $300 to $400 price bracket the 7850 would be my choice as its newer tech (7xxx series) and outperforms the 560. Unless the 660 comes out... or if you can score a 6950 for $200ish. Unless you are a mafia 2 addict, which is one of the few games which is physx heavy, but then again one 560 gpu for physx :/	icow (15313)
1282767	2012-06-20 08:24:00	So you sold it for $150.00. Happy with the price? A GTX 560Ti should suit your needs. I've been wanting something like that to as I also have a GT 520. I can play Rage on highest settings at a measly 18-27 FPS and Crysis on highest settings at 12 to 20 FPS. Not good at all, but at least it's playable. A GTX 560Ti/HD 7850 should fit the bill nicely.	ChazTheGeek (16619)
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