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Thread ID: 123329	2012-02-18 07:20:00	Paul Holmes Article	Happy Harry (321)	PC World Chat

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1259759	2012-02-18 19:53:00	For just as long as John Key and his cronies need the Maori vote in Parliament to maintain their majority, do you honestly see them changing the current Waitangi Day status? Hone Key is a quandary because whilst he is a honekey he is our first Maori Prime Minister. :confused: I think his mum should have called him Don. ;)	B.M. (505)
1259760	2012-02-18 22:00:00	Here's an interesting take in today's [Sun 19th] Herald editorial: It's not always about you, Paul (www.nzherald.co.nz) :clap	WalOne (4202)
1259761	2012-02-18 22:19:00	From that article "But he must have been aware that, in towns and cities the length of the country, untroubled celebrations took place.". Um, do other places do something to celebrate it, im struggling to think of any, I dont even know if Chch does anything do they? - apart from shops having sales -	Iantech (16386)
1259762	2012-02-18 22:51:00	I believe this was the article, though I've not had the chance to re-read it and confirm: www.nzherald.co.nz I found this interesting in that Herald on Sunday article: The latest outburst also smacked of an abuse of his position. A spittle-flecked rant from go to whoa, it did not attempt to mount any semblance of a coherent argument, settling instead for the observation that he was "over" Waitangi Day, which is "repugnant" and "a ghastly affair" in which a "loony Maori fringe" engaged in "self-denial". (Quite what the last word meant was not explained; the thrust of the piece seemed to be taking protesters to task for self-indulgence, not self-denial). While in some ways the writer is correct, Paul didn't mount much of an argument detailing the specifics, he alluded to enough through the use of things such as: who seem to exist in a perfect world of benefit provision As well as: Never mind the child stats, never mind the national truancy stats, never mind the hopeless failure of Maori to educate their children and stop them bashing their babies. No, it's all the Pakeha's fault. It's all about hating whitey. It's not difficult to read between the lines and see that Waitangi day is fast becoming less and less of a "Pakeha" celebration and more of a day for Maori activists to cry out on an annual basis about the injustices brought against them by white people. Reminds me of this: one-man-ramblings.blogspot.co.nz I for one would far prefer ANZAC be noted as our national day of celebration and remembrance. EDIT: Adding to it, that AUT Dr dude says: "In a tirade he depicted Maori as ghastly, smug, politically neurotic, uneducated, violent child-bashing, greedy fat over-eating weirdos filled with hate," Taonui said. "While racially offensive, he has a right to his views, and talkback radio clearly shows many hold similar ones. Aside from the "fat over-eating weirdos" part, the rest is relatively statistically correct. I'd love to see statistics to prove me wrong however, so if anybody has stats to prove otherwise, I'm certainly all ears!	Chilling_Silence (9)
1259763	2012-02-18 23:07:00	I believe this was the article, though I've not had the chance to re-read it and confirm: www.nzherald.co.nz ars! Thanks for that, much appreciated.	Cicero (40)
1259764	2012-02-19 00:13:00	[QUOTE=Chilling_Silence;1077039] It's not difficult to read between the lines and see that Waitangi day is fast becoming less and less of a "Pakeha" celebration and more of a day for Maori activists to cry out on an annual basis about the injustices brought against them by white people. I for one would far prefer ANZAC be noted as our national day of celebration and remembrance. [QUOTE] Anzac Day is starting to become a national unifying force. It speaks of a time when Maori and Pakeha were united in a common effort. I beleive the nation is subconciously seeking commonality, national purpose, achievement and hope. We see these ideals as present in the spirit of Anzac, and celebrate that. By distancing ourselves from the debacle that Waitangi Day has become, I think we are saying enough of this bull****, let's get a life and recognise something that is truly of inspiration and worth remembering. :2cents:	WalOne (4202)
1259765	2012-02-19 05:34:00	Anzac Day is starting to become a national unifying force. It speaks of a time when Maori and Pakeha were united in a common effort. I beleive the nation is subconciously seeking commonality, national purpose, achievement and hope. We see these ideals as present in the spirit of Anzac, and celebrate that. By distancing ourselves from the debacle that Waitangi Day has become, I think we are saying enough of this bull****, let's get a life and recognise something that is truly of inspiration and worth remembering. :2cents: Well put!	Chilling_Silence (9)
1259766	2012-02-19 06:23:00	ANZAC though, in essence is about war, won't highlighting that nationally, depending on context, risk being offside with some countries, or at the least justify/sanitize war? Do other countries celebrate national days around war events? Germany or Japan never will, due to their atrocities. UK have been involved in centuries of wars, but do they celebrate that nationally?	kahawai chaser (3545)
1259767	2012-02-19 07:05:00	ANZAC though, in essence is about war, won't highlighting that nationally, depending on context, risk being offside with some countries, or at the least justify/sanitize war? Do other countries celebrate national days around war events? Germany or Japan never will, due to their atrocities. UK have been involved in centuries of wars, but do they celebrate that nationally? With all respect, any (positive) stand for anything in this day and age will offend someone, somewhere. The point of view taken for having ANZAC Day as our national day is not to celebrate war, rather to celebrate the sacrifice that so many (of all races) made to preserve our freedom from tyranny. Would we have the ability to express the opinions expressed here (without fear of retribution) had the Nazis (or the Japanese) have won the last world war ?? I don't think so....	johcar (6283)
1259768	2012-02-19 08:08:00	rather to celebrate the sacrifice that so many (of all races) made to preserve our freedom from tyranny. Exactly, however Hone Harawira would likely argue that the "raping and pillaging white man" is the tyranny you speak of ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
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