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Thread ID: 123381 2012-02-21 17:46:00 They borrow??!! pctek (84) PC World Chat
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1260535 2012-02-21 17:46:00 www.stuff.co.nz

They borrow money??!! No wonder the rates go up, I thought they used the rates money and adjusted things accordingly.
pctek (84)
1260536 2012-02-21 19:04:00 If a business can borrow at say 7% and make say 20% then that is the way to go, it's the same with councils.

The problem arises as in Greece where they borrow to spend and not invest.
Cicero (40)
1260537 2012-02-21 21:43:00 You don't have to look as far afield as Greece Cicero ... the Dunedin City Council is just as good as an example with the building of the new stadium down here ... now there's no money for the "other" work ... like ancient water mains that need replacing ... you know the sort of thing I mean ... stuff that we actually need.

I'm not saying that the new stadium is not a great asset to the city ... but there's a hell of a lot of creative accounting going on down here to make it look good. Our grandchildren will be still be paying it off.
SP8's (9836)
1260538 2012-02-21 22:03:00 The problem arises as in Greece where they borrow to spend and not invest.
You mean to say we don't do the same thing.
mikebartnz (21)
1260539 2012-02-21 22:13:00 Auckland City council now has so much debt its been given a credit rating downgrade: that should in itself be a warning that they are borrowing too much (read as spending too much)

Yet they still continue to spend borrow spend borrow spend spend spend

I really dont think councilors want to be involved in real world stuff like fixing sewage & roads
The expensive monuments they love to build are the projects that get all the attention.

Go on, build that rail network, bankrupt the city . The next generation will be stuck with paying all this money back
I think the debt level is at a few thousand per ratepayer, at the mo.
Rates Hike.
1101 (13337)
1260540 2012-02-21 22:46:00 Same here in new plymouth, galleries etc get heaps of funding, budgets get blown out in roads and sewerage, no one is accountable.
How long till we have had enough like greece UK etc
Gobe1 (6290)
1260541 2012-02-21 22:54:00 I would expect that councils would borrow for capital expenditure for example Dunedin building a new stadium which would take a number of years to pay for. This stadium may even produce revenue for the city in years to come if it is well managed. Bobh (5192)
1260542 2012-02-21 23:03:00 This stadium may even produce revenue for the city in years to come if it is well managed.
If that were so private enterprise would have been in like a shot.
mikebartnz (21)
1260543 2012-02-21 23:10:00 Here in Tokoroa we are building a stadium which we really do not need. Snorkbox (15764)
1260544 2012-02-21 23:20:00 The lunatics in Wanganui tried to build an events centre/concert hall over top of the velodrome.

Meanwhile debt is estimated to be $98 million.

How many people live here?

How many of them aren't on a benefit?

Since M.Laws held the office it seems they bowwowed as much as they could but only paid a nominal amount to service the interest, and we all said awesome, we have this new stuff, our rates have barely rised, Good work Mr laws.



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Meanwhile, the council is paying back $1.2 million of the $93.2 million owed in this financial year and at the same time borrowing another $5 million.
Metla (12)
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