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Thread ID: 123319	2012-02-17 08:48:00	Oldies to blame again?	Poppa John (284)	PC World Chat

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1259650	2012-02-17 08:48:00	www.nzherald.co.nz Hi All...Have a look at this. Us Pensioners are sucking the blood out of NZ it has been said on here a few times. So it is proposed to raise the Pension Age to keep us at work. So statistics say that more Pensioners are staying at work & not retiring. Just what Key wants. But hang on...as many of us have already thought...............These are the 170,000 jobs that the unemployed & the Schooleavers were going to get arne't they? If pensioners are staying at work there mus be a valid reason Please don't be petty & say Greeed & Selfishness. If Pensions were paid at the same rate as Parliamentarians ones, then more people would retire making way for younger ones. Think about this as well All those assets that those Oldies helped to build, Dams & Power Stations etc going to be sold off like a ship load of meat carcasses. What a clever idea, why did we ever bother, fancy us thinkin we were building a future for our children & country. Do I trust Politicions of any brand? PJ	Poppa John (284)
1259651	2012-02-17 09:08:00	Pretty sure half of them stay working to stay away from their spouse.	Alex B (15479)
1259652	2012-02-17 09:13:00	Pretty sure half of them stay working to stay away from their spouse. Poor thing you. PJ	Poppa John (284)
1259653	2012-02-17 09:27:00	Pretty sure half of them stay working to stay away from their spouse. Maybe the spouse wants them out of the house.	Bobh (5192)
1259654	2012-02-17 13:14:00	and employers shun youth for experience. Reliability would be a major reason.	mikebartnz (21)
1259655	2012-02-17 18:10:00	Us Pensioners are sucking the blood out of NZ it has been said on here a few times. So it is proposed to raise the Pension Age to keep us at work. These are the 170,000 jobs that the unemployed & the Schooleavers were going to get aren't they? Yes. Raise the retirement age, never mind not all over 60, never mind 65 are fit and well. And many can't get jobs over 50 never mind 65. And then there is the young. Who also can't. What it tells me is there aren't enough jobs. And then you have the likes of Orcon who open call centres in Manila.	pctek (84)
1259656	2012-02-17 19:18:00	I love this blame game. You cant blame pensioners or the baby boomers seeing as it was the politicians who stuffed up the system. The easy example of course is Muldoon stopping Labours super fund. How the heck was an ordinary punter like myself going to know what to do when politicians assured us that there would be a livable pension there for us when we retired, now of course they shift the blame to us which of course the younger generation are only to happy to believe. Ah, honesty in politics it never stops.	Clod (7853)
1259657	2012-02-17 20:20:00	Well, only the gullible believed Hone and his 170,000 jobs. :lol: But whilst the statisticians are juggling figures to prove a case, could they give us a breakdown of all the families where nobody has worked, ever, or for less than say one year in their lifetime. I know I could name a few families of professional bludgers who see no need to work and that meet the criteria. The grandparents were bludgers, their parents were bludgers, so what do you expect from the kids? I clearly remember at the tender age of 15 I somehow managed to fluke School Certificate and advised my father that I would go back to school and try and get University Entrance. He advised me that I was big enough, old enough, and ugly enough to get a job and my board was now 15/- a week to be paid to my mother. End of discussion! :crying	B.M. (505)
1259658	2012-02-17 21:23:00	One of the problems in NZ is that employers don't want to take on untrained staff because it costs. No experience no job unless you've got a law degree then they make take you as an intern or the like. The company I work for has a vacancy for a logistics person. The existing girl who is doing it had a friend who had just done a logistics course at MIT. ( not the real one but the wannabe one in Manukau) The management turned him down as he had no experience so they have gone to the head hunters to get someone. She leaves next Friday so we will have no one for about 4 ~ 6 weeks so the management will expect every one else to do her job as well as there own. She after all gave them 7 weeks notice.. Mind you some of the just left school people I see at the shopping mall with their maori boy accents look basically unemployable.	paulw (1826)
1259659	2012-02-17 21:30:00	I have had to give up my trade and with the downturn in the building and related industries, I can't get a job yet because I have no working experience in other areas, despite having done so many things over the years and having abilities beyond my trade, but without working experience no one will even interview me. I have had that told to me by several firms I approached	gary67 (56)
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