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Thread ID: 123424 2012-02-23 17:49:00 What Do You Aucklanders Think Of The 3 Week Port Strike And Who's Side Are You On. Trev (427) PC World Chat
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1261001 2012-02-24 05:13:00 The term excellent was supposed to spew sarcasm.

Came across as approval.!

If you care for nowt, why comment, just enjoy your care free ways.
Cicero (40)
1261002 2012-02-24 06:24:00 So the port wants them to work when a boat is in. The wharfies want to work to the clock. Which side is being unreasonable? wotz (335)
1261003 2012-02-24 07:26:00 Once the port is closed down, Aucklanders can have the wharf areas converted to car parks thereby freeing up the roads for their intended purpose, allowing cyclists to get around unharmed ;)

fixed that for ya as you made a mistake :devil:devil
gary67 (56)
1261004 2012-02-24 10:00:00 fixed that for ya as you made a mistake :devil:devil

That's better Gary :D
pcuser42 (130)
1261005 2012-02-24 11:49:00 That's rude. They make $38million so they have to sack 441 people.
Don't get me wrong as I don't like to see workers laid off especially when the jobs are shipped overseas but that $38m while right out of our league is probably a very poor return on investment and I agree with you in that most CEO's are paid way too much.
mikebartnz (21)
1261006 2012-02-24 21:32:00 D $38m is probably a very poor return on investment .

Yes, it all comes down to shareholders returns these days doesn't it.
Not providing a service and making a profit while doing so.

And always, it's sack the staff, cut corners, anything but kill the bloat in areas that could most use it.
pctek (84)
1261007 2012-02-24 21:49:00 An Airforce mate of mine said they had enough Wing Commanders in the RNZAF to lead all the wings they have in the US Airforce. prefect (6291)
1261008 2012-02-24 21:51:00 So true, I think on top of their current advantages they should be allocated hammocks for such times as this. Cicero (40)
1261009 2012-02-24 21:56:00 You should be able to hire who you like, subject of course to an agreement on conditions of the contract that are mutually agreeable to both parties. In the workers don't like the conditions - they should go and get a job elsewhere where they do like them. If there aren't enough skilled workers for the ports after that - I'm sure it would drive the market rate up anyway. Well that's how it appears to work in IT anyway where most people negotiate individual not union contracts. Twelvevolts (5457)
1261010 2012-02-24 21:57:00 Several issues here...

Neither I, nor most here are privy to the discussions at that bargaining table. So I believe we should not be so quick to pass judgement.

I generally support a worker(s) right to strike as a measure of last resort when negotiations fail. To me, this is a important right in labour law.

As a long time shift worker myself, coming in to work on nights, weekends, stat days etc, all year - every year, I believe the higher remuneration for this is well earned.

As far as the minimum 8hrs bit goes, I sure no one here would want to go to work every day wondering if they would be lucky and get a full days work that day cause they have bills to pay next week.

I also recognize that as a business, it has to make a profit. But it shouldn't be at the expense of its employees, its greatest asset.

The traditional NZ media are hopeless for getting a balanced story, so I take what they say with a grain of salt.
But having been involved myself in industrial action before, I can it is something that is NOT taken lightly and is used only when all other avenues have failed.
Please don't forget that a lot of the workers rights we have now are the result of unions fighting for us many years ago.

I may not be very popular after this post, but this tread appeared to be only showing one side of the fence.
Nyuuji (5460)
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