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Thread ID: 123562	2012-03-03 22:51:00	Nissan bluebirds are they any good?	forrest44 (754)	PC World Chat

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1262886	2012-03-04 02:06:00	I’ve had a couple of them (imports) and both did nearly 400,000km before I figured they should be replaced. In fact, being imports, they both may have in fact done over 400,000km, so no complaints from me. :)	B.M. (505)
1262887	2012-03-04 02:47:00	Nissan are one of the few cars around that still use a chain for driving the OHC. No worrys of a belt busting and ruining your motor or getting it replaced every 100,000ks or so. :)	Trev (427)
1262888	2012-03-04 03:22:00	Thanks Kahawai chaser, very useful info	forrest44 (754)
1262889	2012-03-04 04:14:00	www.stuff.co.nz Toyota. Unless you're rich. I had a Bluebird. Motor was OK I guess. - But what a PITA to work on, the hoses went, replaced one, had a mechanic friend do another and then lost interest as to get at the rest it would involve pulling half the motor out. As it was the master cylinder had to come out on one. Nasty, hated it. Bought Toyota from then on, at least you can get at things easily, and of course, their reputations too...have to say my experiences have matched that. Husband has an old Datsun ute. Still going, hate think what it's real mileage is - we estimate near 400,000 odd. However he has replaced everything except the dff and the motor in the time h has had it, reliable? Can't say we'd get another....	pctek (84)
1262890	2012-03-04 04:54:00	My parents had Datsun 1600s and a couple of 180Bs. :)	Trev (427)
1262891	2012-03-04 05:22:00	www.stuff.co.nz Toyota. Unless you're rich. I had a Bluebird. Motor was OK I guess. - But what a PITA to work on, the hoses went, replaced one, had a mechanic friend do another and then lost interest as to get at the rest it would involve pulling half the motor out. As it was the master cylinder had to come out on one. Nasty, hated it. Bought Toyota from then on, at least you can get at things easily, and of course, their reputations too...have to say my experiences have matched that. Husband has an old Datsun ute. Still going, hate think what it's real mileage is - we estimate near 400,000 odd. However he has replaced everything except the dff and the motor in the time h has had it, reliable? Can't say we'd get another.... Even a Rolls Royce will pack up early if not maintained, and that is the answer to longevity.	Cicero (40)
1262892	2012-03-04 05:23:00	I'm trying to remember what year my Bluebird was, it was a 2.0l triple S with a timing chain, when I got it serviced the mechanic told me as long as the oil was changed regularly they were very reliable engines (something about dirty oil clogging up the injectors or something, one of the earlier posts seemed to be describing it). I'm not the best source on mechanical details but I can tell you it was a decently quick car with good handling and reasonable fuel efficiency. I only replaced it because it was stolen and was slightly disgusted to discover that my 3.0l V6 camry has a lower power to weight ratio and is noticeably slower. I have mainly owned Toyotas, a little boring perhaps but dependable. I would own another Nissan though and have fond memories of my one Mazda (1977 1800cc 929 used, abused, destroyed at about 200,00 miles but teenage idiot driving). EDIT: looked it up in my dog and lemon guide, a great book if you are looking at buying a car. It rates the 92-98 bluebird as OK in reliability up to 150000 kms. A couple of abbreviated snippets - The water pipes under the engine sometimes start leaking at about 10 years / 100,00km and are difficult/expensive to replace, If the engine sounds rattly at startup it could indicate timing chain tensioner issues which could eventually lead to catastrophic failure, On turbocharged model the turbo rarely lasts as long as the engine. Sounds like at low mileage they are ok, but at around 150k they can develop issues.	dugimodo (138)
1262893	2012-03-04 05:40:00	We had a Nissan Station Wagon, 2LT version, NZ New, was one of the last of the Nissan S/Wagons to be made in NZ . We did over 1m km's all over the South Island as part of my job, never missed a beat . Just the standard oil changes, trans oil, boot covers and the like . Never once in the time we had it was the motor over hauled or anything . Ran like a charm . Before that 1 we had another Nissan S/wagon, that did over 600,000km with out any engine work . Both were very good on fuel and never burnt any oil . Both handled very well, light positive steering, fast pick up when needed at the top end of the legal speed for overtaking, nimble even when loaded down which was 99% of the time on the alpine roads . We had a Subaru S/wagon at one time, guzzled the fuel . Didn't handle all that well . We replaced the last Nissan S/wagon with a Toyota Corolla Hatch which performed with out fault with very high mileage and just got a new Toyota Twin Cab middle of last year which already has over 70,000 now on it and performs like new . Probably a lot depends on how well you treat them and how often you do the oil changes and the like . We would have stayed with Nissan but were unable to buy a new Nissan BlueBird Wagon as they were no longer being made combined with poor sales service when we were looking to replace prompted us to first look at the Mitsubishi wagons but Toyota offered us a better deal for cash up front so Toyota is what we now use .	PinoyKiw (9675)
1262894	2012-03-04 19:06:00	Even a Rolls Royce will pack up early if not maintained, and that is the answer to longevity. We maintain. Regular servicing - decent oil. The ute is seriously well maintained now - there's only the motor and diff left to replace...........	pctek (84)
1262895	2012-03-04 19:23:00	We maintain. Regular servicing - decent oil. The ute is seriously well maintained now - there's only the motor and diff left to replace........... This has to start from new, not 200000 down the track.	Cicero (40)
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