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30481	2002-01-09 20:00:00	Hi I recently put a posting up, the reponse was great, but I'm not sure which posts I should stick to. The answers are mostly different. I'm sure somebody whos got a CD-RW could test it out for me or at least having people say, yup he's/she's right. The reponse was slow and not technical. Come one guys and girls, they're more than me whos disappointed -Richard is one example. I'm sure we can do better than this. Let's stop the jokes and whats new (sorry, tweak 'e) and help out. My post was like this:I am just looking to purchasing a Ricoh CD-ReWriter, but I have a question I would like the answer to before I buy the CD-RW. The question is as follows: If I had a CD-RW that was capable of writing at 20x (model MP7200A)/24x (model MP7240A)/32x (model MP7320A), and I wanted to backup/copy a CD disc which was written at a speed of 8x. Would I still be able to copy this particular CD at 20x/24x/32x speed? Or would I have to copy at the speed the original CD was written at which in this case is 8x? Or can?t I copy the CD completely (just because it?s a fast CD-RW? Also if anyone knows somebody in Auckland who can sell any of the three models of CD-RW listed above (Ricoh MP7200A/7240A/7320A, could you please who they are and contact details if possible. Many thanks, ;-) And the four replies I got was from B K, ray anderson, Susan B, and Scotty D. B K's read: You have to burn the 8x cd at 8x you cannot burn it at a higher speed unless you want to ruin the cd. My new software (Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 Platium) automatically detects the maxium speed that a the cd can be writen on to and will not let you copy it at any higher than that speed. Cant help you with where to find those cd writers. while ray's read: sy, the speed at which the original cd was burnt does nor affect the speed at which you can burn a copy. The burn speed is limited mainly by the writer and the blank cd. It always pays to do a test burn first (this runs through the burn process without actually burning, just to make sure everything is going to work properly). Other software running at the same time as the burner can also make a burn fail. Try PB Tech for a drive - they usually have pretty sharp prices and an excellent backup service. while scotty's read: Speed won't matter if copy to hard drive first. Otherwise the read speed of the 2nd CD ROM drive will affect it. and Susan's read: You might have a bit of a job finding a Ricoh burner like I did before Xmas. I was told they aren't bringing any more into the country, or if they were it would be a long time before they did. I went for a different brand in the end. I must say thank you very much to all -especially Susan, because that was most helpful that replied but please could somebody actually do a test for me, or tell me the results they got if they have perviously done one. Especially people who own any of the 3 models, please! Sorry for such a long post! And looking forward to getting more accurate replies in my next post! (sorry, I really do need help) Many thanks ;-)	Guest (0)
30482	2002-01-09 20:55:00	As far as I am concerned, they were all right. You don't want to burn an 8x CD faster than at 8x, it won't work. If you burn an 8x CD at 2x, it don't remember that next time so have a party and let her rip. Removing the speed of the source CD does also help. I do this especially with a USB hard disk to a USB burner, and take the data off the disk onto an ide drive first. I figure the traffic on the USB has got to be a problem otherwise. Does that help? robo.	Guest (0)
30483	2002-01-09 21:01:00	I have the MP7200A and about burning it at the speed suggested on the CD is the recommendation not a direct order. I've heard comments that it lowers the lifetime of the data on that CD but I don't keep CDs that long and I've had no problems with CDs for a year now. I've been burning CDs that were recommended at 12x with 20x but that required a Hard Drive to CD Copy because my 48x CD ROM drive still isn't capable of 20x burns without buffer underruns or failing.	Guest (0)
30484	2002-01-09 21:05:00	What do you mean by 'but that required a Hard Drive to CD Copy because my 48x CD ROM drive still isn't capable of 20x burns without buffer underruns or failing.'? Thanks for your reply anyway	Guest (0)
30485	2002-01-09 21:09:00	Geez sy, What more do you want from these poor people :-) Honestly the advice they have given you is as good as it gets. CD burning is a black art, what may work for me may not work for you. Burning is dependant on more than just your burner, it is reliant on your whole hardware setup. I can successfully copy at 12x 'on the fly' and never have a problem, but have friends who can not go above 4x 'on the fly'. ('on the fly' copying from a CD Rom to a CD burner without copying to your HDD first) You may need to copy an image of the Cd to your HDD first to get a successful copy. It can also depend on the media you choose, I had a friend buy some Gatt cd's and could not write to them with his Ricoh burner whereas I had no problems using my Mitsubishi. The speed that a cd has been written at originally has no effect on the rate that you can copy it at, that will depend soley on your hardware. The advice I always give people when installing a burner is: A) Be prepared to burn some coasters until you learn what your system is capable of. B) Find a brand of media that works for you and stick to it. eg I never have a problem with samsung so thats what I stick with. C) Be patient, just because your burner can write at 20x doesnt mean that you will be able to. eg Chucking a 20x burner into a Pentium 100 with 16meg of ram will limit the performance of the burner. (I'm not saying that's your system specs) D) Experiment, try on the fly at 4x. If that works then try 6x, then the next time 8x if that doesnt work then you know your limit is 6x. Then try the same thing with an image. ('image' making a copy of the CD to your harddrive first, then writing to a CD) Sometimes sy, you just have to take some risks in life.	Guest (0)
30486	2002-01-09 21:09:00	sy, if you'd read carefully through their replies, you would have found that they're all right and pretty much answered your question, which, may I add, was slightly confusing, which would explain for the differing answers. If you CD you're writing to is 8x you cannot write faster than that. However if the CD you are copying FROM was written at 8x that wouldn't make any difference to it cause it's already burned and so you're not writing to it, you're reading from it, and it can be read at any speed, although it'd probably pay to read at the same speed as you're writing, unless you're copying to the HDD first. Hope this explains the answers better. Mike.	Guest (0)
30487	2002-01-10 00:00:00	Hello SY,, I know it is that time of year, and we are all feeling lazy after our huge intakes of food, but I am a bit amused about you wanting help to know who sells a particular type of CDRW.... Haven't you ever heard of a telephone? Regards, ALAN	Guest (0)
30488	2002-01-10 05:46:00	Hey s y, It might pay for you to learn a little more tact when dealing with your buddies on here, they might not take too kindly to a smack on the wrist, especially from a schoolboy ;-) Has it occurred to you that what you wanted to know hasn't been tried by anyone else so they don't know if it was possible? And you can't expect people to do tests for you if it is going to cause them useless coasters doing so. And like some of them say, what works on one person's machine may not work one the next person's unless they have identical hardware and software setups. Who wants you screaming at them later on just because it didn't work on yours when theirs was perfectly fine? ;-) Anyway, you wanted to know what burner I got in the end - well it's a Lite-On 24/10/40 from Ascent technologies (www.ascent.co.nz). It was a little more expensive than the Ricoh but is faster and yes, I am happy with it so far, although I haven't done a great deal of burning yet. Have you managed to find a Ricoh from somewhere yet?	Guest (0)
30489	2002-01-10 05:52:00	Hello SY, There is no problem with the supply of Ricoh drives in Auckland www.e-one.co.nz and www.oemcomputers.co.nz are two that I know of that always have these drives in stock( and sorry to say Susan whoever supplied you with your info re suppliers of Ricoh in Christchurch, mislead you as www.inet.net.nz always has them in stock, and very good pricing as well) To answer your question, It depends, theoretically you should be able to burn the CD at the maximum speed of your CDRW, however this would depend on lots of variables, such as the condition of the CD you are copying, the readability of the files contained on the cd, the speed your CDRom will actually read the cd you are copying etc etc. The best way to ensure an error free disk burnt at maximum speed is to do as others have suggested and copy the contents to your hard drive first. Alan	Guest (0)
30490	2002-01-10 06:58:00	Hi Alan, as far as I am aware www.inet.net.nz is an ISP, how would one go about purchasing hardware from them. JM	Guest (0)
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