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| 1287811 | 2012-07-12 08:41:00 | I- Only saying this as many still feel the need to defrag weekly. The trouble with leaving it too long is that it takes for ever to do its job. I've had them take up to about 3/4 of an hour. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1287812 | 2012-07-13 07:11:00 | I have not done a defrag on any of my computers for several years. No problems. | mzee (3324) | ||
| 1287813 | 2012-07-13 12:54:00 | ... that you know of at least. I would make sure you are all backed up before hand if you did decide to do one. Occassionally when you get one that hasnt been done for years or never been done, when you do go to clean it up you create more problems initially as it starts detecting data corruption etc. Had a drive fail once while running a backup off it. It was the first long read period it had to do in years and that was enough to crash what was an already corrupt file structure. It was working fine doing little reads/writes but couldnt handle any sort of loading. Long story short, took out drive, slaved it, backed it all up, formatted it, reinstalled and all is fine. (well not any more, it died under tons of bricks when they pulled down Community House in the CBD). So just saying, you run a risk by not doing a bit of "house keeping" once in a while. The old story, "If you look after it, it will look after you". |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1287814 | 2012-07-13 14:52:00 | old HD's: you run the very real risk of moving data into faulty parts of the HD. Ive seen that happen. Data loss !!! Then you have a problem anyway and should have replaced the HDD already. Besides, it's always advised to actually backup (if not already done) and run CHKDSK before doing defrag. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1287815 | 2012-07-14 05:31:00 | I don't defrag either for three reasons 1. My C: drive is an SSD 2. After checking the scan results of defrag a few times the only things that were actually fragmented were completely unimportant, windows 7's automatic background housekeeping seems very good to me. 3. I just can't be bothered... Anything critical is backed up and I have no performance issues. Back to the OP's problem, another option if the swap file is set to be on the C: drive is to move it to the D: either temporarily so you can defrag or permanently to free up space for the OS. A bonus here is is that windows won't defrag the swap file so the only way to do that is to move it or disable it temporarily (or use a different program). |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1287816 | 2012-07-14 06:15:00 | But, if Windows 7 does automatic defrag and SSDs are not supposed to be defragged, where does that leave people who run Windows 7 on an SSD? | Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1287817 | 2012-07-14 06:29:00 | DON'T DEFRAG SSD's? Is it because; They are so fast you don't get/see any performance boost, Windows spots the SSD and decides to save files in contiguous blocks, instead of all over the place, SSD's have short lives and the extra activity shortens it even further, A rumour started by someone who didn't know any better. |
b.... (7683) | ||
| 1287818 | 2012-07-14 07:10:00 | Windows 7 doesn't auto defrag SSD's it knows better. And as for the reasons; Yeah SSD's are fast enough in access time to make it unecessary No windows doesn't magically save files contiguously, on an SSD there's no need anyway Yes it shortens the life of an SSD unecessarily but the lifespan although shorter than a HDD is still 10 years+ under normal usage. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1287819 | 2012-07-14 22:06:00 | Yeah because the SSD doesn't have to physically move a head from one side of a physical disc and back again, it makes it irrelevant. On a normal HDD it has to actually move a head, similar to the way a record player works (Ahhh good old 45s), and the seek times as it goes from the inside to the outside etc can be a *real* pain! |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1287820 | 2012-07-15 00:23:00 | Windows 7 doesn't auto defrag SSD's it knows better. Are you sure? do you really trust Microsoft to give windows a feature like that which is guaranteed to work? How does it know the difference between a HDD and SSD anyway? |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
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