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32809 2002-01-25 10:54:00 Well I've been working on my dad's friends computer again (the one with the m/board we couldn't identify...) and now everything *seemed* to be working. Win 98 is installed, office 97 installed etc. But one problem, and a fairly big one. We'll be using the system as normal and all of a sudden it'll just freeze - everything stops, even the mouse pointer stops moving. This *usually* happens when we click on the minimize button, so we decided that they'd just not minimize anything, that was doable. But we've now noticed it does it at other times too.

The latest time was the lady was playing solitaire or whatever its called and had just started playing when it froze. She seems to think that its when something has been done twice, eg. Minimize once, and it works fine. Minimize a second time and it freezes. Copied a file somewhere, which worked fine. Then demonstrated how to copy the file (exactly the same method) and it freezes.

System is K6-333, 48mb RAM, 4xCDRom (which for some reason won't read my 98SE CD... I was trying to see if an upgrade to SE would solve any problems, but it wouldn't even read the CD - other CDs work fine in it.), brand new 2gb HDD...

I was wondering whether it might be a video card problem, but I really have no way to check, as the only video cards I have spare now are 2 I have already tried in the machine (before I got to these problems) that had other problems with them, and so I put in a video card out of my wife's computer that I know is working... perhaps the system I put it into doesn't like it?

I have no other ideas what it could be, so would appreciate some suggestions... my only problem is that the system is now back in howick or wherever they live, and I'm in Tauranga so its not as easy as going and jumping on it to see if something works, but I can probably remember most of the stuff.
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32810 2002-01-25 12:11:00 You can check if its the video card by turning off all the acceleration features the card has. Its in the display control panel, settings tab, advanced button, performance tab.

If its the graphics card a newer driver will probably fix it.
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32811 2002-01-25 12:15:00 The card doesn't have ANY acceleration options... its a 6yo PCI card (probably 1mb), and its got the most recent driver for that card that I can find on the net... Guest (0)
32812 2002-01-26 03:38:00 Time to install a rubber chicken?

Hangups (as opposed to loooong delays) are always lost interrupts. Except when they're not.

Unlikely to be memory ... that's usually more obvious.

Knew a PDP8 once which locked up once or twice a year. Traced the logic and I even knew which flip-flop of 4 on one chip was doing it, but it was easier to turn the power off then on than to unsolder the chip.

Can you under-clock it from the BIOS? With the emphasis on speed these days, even half nanoseconds matter. It doesn't take much temperature difference to stop things working. There's not much difference in 'typing speed' between 300 and 333 ...

I suppose these new technologies (only 60 years or so!) take a while to become understood.
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