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Thread ID: 125731 2012-07-15 21:09:00 Excessive data usage - advice please BBCmicro (15761) Press F1
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1288784 2012-07-16 10:56:00 I think I am on that plan what does happen after 'the twelve months are up'?

Please let me know mikebartnz, I am not aware of what you mean.
After the twelve months are up it starts costing $30 more but by then there will be another plan.:p
Why the hell does it put scroll bars when there are no need for them?
They have gone for some reason.
mikebartnz (21)
1288785 2012-07-16 22:47:00 Well the "management meeting" didn't quite go as expected - they simply said No problem - we'll pay. I mentioned DeSade's $675 but it didn't seem to cause much fear. (but yesterday's usage did drop to 1.1GB) The suspect claimed not to know about torrent but admitted to "a couple of hours" on Skype

When I drill down through the csv data provided by telstra - yes I do have a fun and active social life, why do you ask? - there was a half GB downloaded while we were having dinner on Sunday (but only about 70MB uploaded). There was also minor activity at 2:30 am and 4 am - which must be entering Telstra's accounts a different way because my router was off (CableTV box maintenance?) I think it's time to look at NetWorx mentioned by Zqwerty
BBCmicro (15761)
1288786 2012-07-16 23:46:00 Networx has to be installed on any computer you wish to know the amount of bandwidth being used over a period of time, don't think you can remotely monitor.

It looks very much like Torrent activity to me, Skype only uses about 100MBs/hr on audio only and probably about 4 times as much with video as well, no where near the amounts you are noticing anyway.
zqwerty (97)
1288787 2012-07-17 00:54:00 Well the "management meeting" didn't quite go as expected - they simply said No problem - we'll pay. I mentioned DeSade's $675 but it didn't seem to cause much fear. (but yesterday's usage did drop to 1.1GB) The suspect claimed not to know about torrent but admitted to "a couple of hours" on Skype

When I drill down through the csv data provided by telstra - yes I do have a fun and active social life, why do you ask? - there was a half GB downloaded while we were having dinner on Sunday (but only about 70MB uploaded). There was also minor activity at 2:30 am and 4 am - which must be entering Telstra's accounts a different way because my router was off (CableTV box maintenance?) I think it's time to look at NetWorx mentioned by Zqwerty I use networx here on all the PC's and it works very nice, it actually gives exact amounts of data usage in or out in REAL TIME. You can watch a movie on Youtube and see just how much data is being sucked up as it plays.

I had a big fight with Telstra a while back over something similar, they claimed we downloaded approx 20GB at a certain time and there was no one home and all the PC's were off. It was then they admitted that their monitors are not accurate and can be a hour or more out compared to the actual time something was downloaded.

Just as an example I've attached a couple of Pictures, played a song from youtube, look at what teh usage was at the start, then at the finish -- ;)

40004001

33MB and thats only playing one 6 minute song/Video.
wainuitech (129)
1288788 2012-07-17 01:26:00 Honestly, just go gargoyle. $103 from ascent for a Gigabit/Wifi N capable router from TP Link (WR1043ND) or less for Megabit/WifiG (about $80 I thought).

And it uses the Atheros image direct over the top of the stock TP Link firmware - about 0% brain power needed.

Then follow your nose for quotas, web site usage, search usage, restrictions etc.

I've written programs for mine that read my telecom usage, and my gargoyle usage and matches them up. Keeps Telecom honest, and is useful for tracking spikes (I find Gargoyle only keeps 48 hours of usage stats. Not sure about web site usage.
psycik (12851)
1288789 2012-07-17 03:15:00 Depends on your router, you can make it keep longer site stats and things, sites visited, searches performed.

@BBCMicro
One thing to keep in mind is that a video chat is more or less likely to be semi-synchronous with its transfer.
If I'm sending video, I'm receiving video (For the better part). AFAIK even when you disable your camera during a video call, or "pause" it at least, Skype still continues to stream "video" of your static image up.

That, and there's no way even on a voice call they can download that much and upload that same amount (Even if they were voice sending, video receiving) on Skype. It's pretty much guaranteed to be a torrent.

Great part about Gargoyle is you can get it to tell you the protocol the traffic is using too and find out exactly whats what. On top of that, you can have 100% hard solid evidence to provide to these two young ladies and say "Here is YOUR devices MAC address, this is precisely how much you downloaded and uploaded. Multiply it by $2.95 per-GB and you get X. This is what you owe me so we're square". Couldn't be easier! :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1288790 2012-07-17 05:14:00 Daughter arrives on the weekend, friend of the girls. I'll get her to see what's starting up unnoticed. When I asked the suspect about "torrent" I should have asked have you ever used it, rather than Are you using it

[Daughter not too bad on the technical front. While working on a small island off the coast of New Caledonia her Acer Aspire One AOA150 netbook froze. She got someone to download a file for her and then she re-flashed the BIOS... Certainly surprised me!]
BBCmicro (15761)
1288791 2012-07-17 06:14:00 Aaaah nice, good on her :)

Yeah my money says if you looks for things running in the systray, the culprit will be there, and it's likely they *know* it's there if the downloads have lightened up too...

Good luck!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1288792 2012-07-17 21:17:00 Dropbox synchronisation. The culprit volunteered this information last night.

Perhaps I should take 'the cloud' more seriously....

[Why is the internet called the Cloud? Powerpoint clipart. I saw it done in 199(7?). We all laughed]
BBCmicro (15761)
1288793 2012-07-17 21:21:00 What, so she downloaded files of the internet then put them back up on the internet through her dropbox. stratex5 (16685)
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